But often the "mess" has bankrupted companies who were completely blameless.
I refer, of course, to the tragedy over silicone breast implants. Not only was DowCorning significantly harmed, but millions and millions of (real) men were deprived of a signal joy in life.
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HeyBub
I was once offered an investment opportunity: a sand pit.
Forget about selling the sand, the deal was a tax dodge.
As the sand was removed, you were depleting an asset and got to take a deduction. At some point, the sand pit would be empty. You're left with a honkin' big hole in the ground.
Now you charge people to dump stuff (trees, concrete, etc.). The hole now is your asset, and as it fills, you get another asset-reduction write-off.
When the hole gets full, you cover the mess with topsoil and build low-cost housing.
Anyway, with regard to SuperFund sites, why couldn't they just cover 'em up and build housing for the poor? Lest you think that's weird, Italy covers contaminated sites with rubber sheeting, then soil, and turns the results into parks.
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Kurt Ullman
Err. I sent stuff with the original posting about various things. Might want to go back and look for the post.
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HeyBub
Yeah, but you (and millions of others) are forced to PAY for it.
Fares never come close to the operating budget.
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HeyBub
I did see a light rail system that worked.
A department store in Ft Worth built a monsterous parking lot, a couple of miles from downtown, then built a trolley from the lot, along the banks of the river, through an abandoned storm sewer, right to the bargain basement of the store. You could park for free and ride the trolley for free. You just had to pass all the sale items to get to Main Street.
Thousands and thousands every day. No cost to the city, no cost to the taxpayers, no cost to the riders.
Worked swell.
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HeyBub
Because they are easily fooled into joining a mass-movement; doing so gives meaning and purpose to their dismal lives.
By any objective standard, individual recycling is an energy and resource waster. The piddly amount of recyclable materials collected in community projects never comes close to the cost of running the program.
But recycling makes a lot of people feel good. I suspect those who drive ten miles to "properly" dispose of three glass jars experience something akin to an orgasm.
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CJT
That sounds bogus to me. I doubt legalizing abortion increased the number of abortions by much; it probably had a greater effect by saving the lives of girls who otherwise would have died during illegal abortions. Thus, the numbers of those favoring the policy would INCREASE over time.
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CJT
I suggest that the two are similar in magnitude. After all, there haven't been all that many projects blocked -- just delayed. But the corporate follies will be with us for decades in many cases.
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CJT
In other words, what you call "the loons" have had a worthwhile effect.
Do you suppose directional drilling would be chosen ABSENT opposition?
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Pete C.
Converting superfund sites into low income housing would be discriminatory. You have to convert them into gated golf communities for the rich instead so as not to discriminate...
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CJT
... at least in part because of the efforts of those labeled "loons" earlier in this thread.
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JoeSpareBedroom
It all balances out. The members of the 54% kill themselves off through stupidity.
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JoeSpareBedroom
Did you say "off come the gloves" ?
What do you mean by that?
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JoeSpareBedroom
Only infantile men, actually. And, members of the 54% who can't rite reel gud. You, for instance.
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Don Klipstein
In article , CJT wrote in part:
Delays of projects are expensive. One big example: A lot of nuclear plants had construction drawn out by delays in the 1970's when interest rates were at high levels, and after that the antinukers blamed the nukes for their electricity being expensive.
- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)
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JoeSpareBedroom
If, hypothetically, those rods could be ground into the finest powder possible and dumped into a lake that serves as the water supply for 3 million people, what do you suppose would be the results, and I mean PLURAL results? The next day, the next week, the next year. Tell me about the results.
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JoeSpareBedroom
Education is always a good thing. I read constantly. But, no matter how much I learn, I can't keep your washing machine from breaking down or keep you from setting your hair on fire by getting too close to your BBQ. Know what I mean?
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JoeSpareBedroom
Which issue?
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JoeSpareBedroom
We're forced to pay for all sorts of crap. I wouldn't mind paying for a light rail system. You don't mind paying for the invasion of the wrong country in the Middle East.
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JoeSpareBedroom
I need statistics from state agencies that register the vehicles. Until then, nothing we say in this branch of the conversation is worthwhile.
No data, no further talk. "Undoubtedly" is meaningless. 100% meaningless.
Now, go get me the data I want.
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