getting ready to tile the bathroom

OK getting ready to put floor tile in the bathroom...what do i do about running it up against the toilet and bathtub? obviously i dont want to life either...do i just run the tile against the base of the tiolet and bathtub, then caulk and seal?
thanks all
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bpuharic wrote:

Generally the tile is stopped short of the tub, and the tile stops short of the toilet flange (the tile runs underneath the toilet).

I have no idea what that means.
Jon
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 16:13:25 -0800, "Jon Danniken"

unfortunately the toilet is already in place
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bpuharic wrote:

Removing it is no big deal.
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Bob F wrote:

Its a piece of shit......
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You pull the john or live with the mistake you made. Not pretty.
The tub you just butt up to.
Whether this is vinyl or ceramic will determine the details that go with the above.
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:14:59 -0500, "Colbyt"

yeah had a feeling this would be the case. not too happy with trying to pull the toilet. messy job, etc.
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bpuharic wrote:

Turn off, and disconnect the water. Flush it with the water off to clear most of the water. Unbolt it and lift it out. Or do it poorly.
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"bpuharic" wrote in message

yeah had a feeling this would be the case. not too happy with trying to pull the toilet. messy job, etc.
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Not as messy as cleaning up after a tile job.
Unless the water shut off valve is stuck or something, you only ever need a couple of raggy towels to dry up and a new wax or foam seal when you remount the toilet...
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It really isn't all that hard. I think you can skip the first article but parts 2 and 3 are worth the read.
http://househomerepair.com/4-Replacing-a-Toilet-Part-One.html
You may need to add a flange buildup to compensate for your tile. The are about 6 bucks at the BORG.
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It's not a messy job at all. It's easy, though sometimes, if it's been there a decade or two, you may need a Dremmel tool to cut the bolts. If so, they need replacing anyway.
Just do it!
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:14:59 -0500, "Colbyt"

looks like the previous owner left about 1/4" under the toilet...dont know if this is enough to slide tile under it...
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pull toilet or get plumber to do it, or just admit your going to have a half ass job. do you want to HAVE to do this again?
Did you use cement board? as floor underlayment?
do the job right, do it once and relax you wouldnt have to do it again......
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On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 19:36:08 -0800 (PST), " snipped-for-privacy@aol.com"

yeah you're right. i just hate the toilet job...
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On 1/8/2011 5:59 PM, bpuharic wrote:

Yes against tub, no, no, a thousand times no, against base of toilet. You never want toilet sitting in a sealed pocket. If and when the wax ring leaks, or bathroom floor floods for other reasons, the water will leak down into floor and rot it. (No caulk job stays perfect forever.) Pulling and resetting a toilet is easy. And if you caulk around base of toilet, don't go all the way around- leave a couple inches in back open, so water has a way to get out where you will notice it.
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i hate doing toilets...pain the ass, so to speak
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You have a real mindset against removing the toilet despite its ease compared to the work, difficulty of fitting tiles and the general crummy results you will have. Also if you have not done any preparation to the floor, only vinyl tiles will have a chance of working, ceramics will surely fail.
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Different toilets have different bases in that their profiles are different and the manufacturers are always changing them. In the future if your toilet ever breaks or you want to change it for any reason you will not be able to find one that has the same base that you cut your floor tile to. As for removing a toilet remember that a wet/dry shopvac is your best friend.
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bpuharic wrote:

I left a gap 'twixt the first tile and the tub (grout filled).
You've GOT to lift the toilet and tile underneath it otherwise the result WILL look like crap. So doing will also facilitate changing toilets when your old age mandates the taller kind.
Hint:
Assuming you're using 12" tiles. Cut a bunch in half with a tile cutter or angle grinder and use them as the baseboard.
I glued mine to the wall with liquid nails then went back and stuffed grout in the gaps to match the floor.
Looks great!
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HeyBub wrote:

Here's the result:
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae42/ymalbrucker/th_BathTiles2.jpg?t 94627074
http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae42/ymalbrucker/th_BathTiles2.jpg?t 94627074
Note the home-made toilet tissue holder. In matches a towel rack.
The color and design of those two items were dictated by a reworked dresser that was turned into a vanity. http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae42/ymalbrucker/MainBath2.jpg?t 94627315
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