I was helping a freind of mine do some wiring in his
trailer. We were about to cut a branch circuit in the
bedroom. I suggested turning off the power. He thought he
had. Turns out the panel didn't have main breaker, and he'd
only turned off the power to the water heater.
Plumber came to do some work on my water heater, in a
rented shop. I suggested we turn off the power. He looked
surprised. He had flipped a switch next the the WH. The only
thing he did was turn off the heat tape for the pipes over
head. I know, I'm the guy who put that switch on.
Hey, do what you want with the transfer swich. The two
stories above are real life, I was there and saw both of
them happen. Are you 100 % sure that you, relatives, and
anyone using your equipment will open the main? Do they know
which one is the main?
"It's dark in here. And cold. I saw him do it once. Here,
it's like this.... bring that candle closer so I can see to
fill the gasoline.......I know the gascan and generator are
in the cellar here some where."
Shall I give you some more narrative?
Unfortunately not everyone leads *your* life. They may live with others,
children may be involved, visitors may be involved, there can be
emergency situations, people get sick or tired or even incapacitated
etc. Thats why standard safety practices were devised.
If the two chaps you chronicled are not snappy enough to actually TEST for
voltage before they lay hands on the wire, they are, perhaps, candidates for
a lineman's job that so many worry about.
As for the odd person knowing which circuit breaker is which, they're
labeled. And not with some strange acronym like "WH" that stands for "Heat
Tape." That said, and as you so ably point out, absolute reliance on a
properly-labeled circuit breaker is also a source of disaster.
Agreed. And if it's crucial to them, they might consider protecting their
infrastructure. This same power company puts fences around their substations
and seals on their meters and signs that say "Don't dig here."
They do. Thats why there are specific requirements about interlocking
which are enforced by electrical codes and standard practice. There
really is no way to justify your really bizarre thinking about disregard
for human life no matter how hard you try.
Bah! Neither the electrical code nor standard practice have any enforcement
mechanism. They're like the Ten Commandments: there is no penalty attached
And just what is my bizarre thinking? That power companies should provide
interlocks to their customers that have generators? The 'phone company used
to provide interference suppression devices for customer-owned telephones,
ostensibly to protect their circuits from non-conforming equipment. Many
water companies provide backflow preventers to keep their product pure.
The power company already installs lightning arrestors, reclosures, and
ground wires on almost every pole - again to protect their equipment.
It's the concept I'm arguing.
Tell you what's really bizarre: your concluding that I have no regard for
human life. You didn't find that in my post. In fact, just the opposite. I
suggest that if the power company DID provide interlock devices, the chance
for injury would be lessened.
And the customers have the generators because the power companies
(PCs) cannot provide sufficient reliability. That's sometimes not the
PCs fault, e.g. weather; but then the PCs should be willing to provide
the interlock if the customer provides the genset.
Every water company I am familiar with requires the *end user* to
install backflow preventers per their specification just like *ALL*
electrical suppliers require isolation and interlocking of alternate
No, you are arguing that you want to do it your way and everyone else
should pay for some elaborate protection system.
Right, thats why you wrote this:
"Certainly. Chances are, if a lineman IS killed, you didn't know him.
yourself the next time you're standing in the long line at the movie or
So are you the bored housewife I think you are who writes nonsense to
During storm damage conditions it may or may not be possible for power
company staff to install temporary short circuits on downed lines.
With an attitude like that no wonder there are problems in society!
If I want to sneeze in your face I should have every right to do so!
I'll shoot my gun off anywhere I want; passing motorist and
pedestrians should install metal plate armour in their vehicles and
wear bullet proof clothing.
If want to I'll piss in any river, pond, water supply, swimming pool;
to hell with the fish or health of other humans!
Fireworks? Sure fire them off anywhere you want; who cares about grass
fires or someone else's property.
If I want to drive 100 mph in a school or pedestrian zone I'll do so.
Sex. Yes anywhere any time with anyone; and ignore catching (or
transmitting) AIDS or other STDs!
Vaccinations. Don't bother to sterilise his/her arm; just stick in the
Boating? If I want to cut across the bow of another
boat .............................. THEY should avoid
me ................ Oops: CRASH!!!!! ......... HEEEELP! Hey can anyone
lend me a life jacket .................... !.
Wow! Seven galons. My little Coleman has a one gal tank. For
winter power cuts, I run it for an hour or so in the evening
to run the furnace. It has been a while, but I don't think I
ever totally fill the one galon tank. Use oil lamps and
flash lights for light.
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