Gas vs. Electric Dryer

john I agree with your thought but your numbers add to 101.4%, and we all forgot about hydro and nuclear, or maybe I missed something, different areas have different sources, and different percentages of products. and LNG I have questions about....better beans make better gas

"BrianEWilliams" wrote in message news:

Unless we (USA) have a mild Summer *and* a mild Winter, we may see an explosion in NG prices.

Natural Gas Crisis by Dale Allen Pfeiffer

June 23, 2003, 2000 PDT (FTW) --Forget about terrorists. Don't give another thought to SARS. The single greatest threat to the U.S. right now comes from a critical shortage of natural gas. The impending crisis will affect all consumers directly in the pocket book, and it may well mean that some people won't survive next winter. The problem is not with wells or pumps. The problem is that North America is running out and there is no replacement supply. [.....] Rising NG prices have also led to an increase in Nitrogen fertilizer costs, which use NG as a feedstock. Nitrogen fertilizer is now selling for in excess of 55% more than it sold for a year ago. Natural Gas accounts for 70 to 80% of the cost of such fertilizers. Southern farmers also face higher irrigation expenses, as NG is used to run irrigation pumps. [.....] It is almost a certainty that there will be a Natural Gas crisis this year, and you will not have to wait until winter to see it begin. Prices are already beginning to move upward. By the end of August NG prices will probably be back in the $8.00-$10.00/MMbtu range, and possibly higher. Such prices for summer are unheard of, and there is no telling how it will affect the market, or our electric bills. [.....] In the worst case, there would be many stories of people freezing in their homes. Prices would skyrocket. The chemical and fertilizer industry would be sent reeling. Overall, industry would slow down drastically and the economy would suffer. Come the summer of 2004, farmers would go out of business and the price of food would likely begin to climb. And the task of refilling storage in 2004 would be even more daunting than it is this year.

Learn to do a web search properly, your search is meaningless as others point out.

From the Consumer Product Safety Commmission and National Fire Protection Association:

Most home fires start in living rooms. Second is bedrooms, third is kitchens.

The leading cause of fatal home fire is smoking, followed by: arson, heating equipment, electrical distribution equipment, and then children playing with fire.

The number one cause in home fire resulting in injury, however, is cooking equipment.

Cooking is the leading cause of home fires in the U.S. It is also the leading cause of fire injuries. Cooking fires often result from unattended cooking and human error, rather than mechanical failure of stoves or ovens.

Two of every three home heating fires in the U.S. in 1998, and three of every four related deaths, were attributed to space heating equipment.

So, let's see. Most fires start in the living room and bedroom where you are extremely unlikely to find any natural gas equipment. The fires that start in the 3rd most likely place, the kitchen, aren't caused by equipment failure.

Of the fires caused by heating equipment most of the fires and even more of the deaths are due to space heaters. I've never seen a space heater that was run by natural gas, most of them are electric.

I,m not taking any side on how much of what source produces how much electricity, just wanted to point out that

Woops. I thought the table I was quoting from was in percent, but in fact it's in quadrillion BTU. Not only that but one of the numbers I gave was wrong, because I read from the wrong column; doh!

The correct numbers for fossil fules are 23.4 quadrillion BTU for coal, 19.8 for dry natural gas, 12.4 for oil, and 2.5 for liquid natural gas, for a total of 58.2 quadrillion BTU. That means that coal accounts for 40% of total fossil fuel energy production and natual gas accounts for 38%.

Incidentally, the total of fossil fuel, nuclear and renewable energy production is 71.7 quadrillion BTU, which means that fossil fuels account for 81% of all energy produced.

Why? for What? Now who in the hell are you talking at, you stupid f*ck? Will you ever use any usenet accepted protocol, or will you always be just a webtv s*it stain?

Death caused by electricity (both directly via electrocution, and by short-circuit induced fire) is at least several magnitudes more a concern than the dangers involved with natural gas leaks. It's funny how in the earthquake capitol of the USA, Gas is king, by far. Propane is more of a concern than natural gas, being heavier than air.

fear-monger much?

Exactly 100%, but that only takes into account the power that actually makes it to the heating element.

Relax. You're not going to make it out of here alive anyway.

Since you are obviously a fearful sort of person, I sure hope you don't ever drive or ride in a car. Checked the stats on that lately?

Where I grew up, in western New England, gas space heaters were (and are) quite common. A lot of the housing stock was built before central heating was the norm, so places had no ductwork. Putting in a gas line was a relatively cheap retrofit - the line would feed a "gas and gas" stove (gas cooking and gas space heating) in the kitchen, probably a gas hot water heater also in a corner of the kitchen, and a gas space heater in the living room.

The kitchen stove space heater wouldn't have a fan to distribute the heat, but the living room space heater usually did. If you wanted heat in the bedrooms, you left the bedroom doors open so that warm(er) air could drift in from one of the heated rooms. The heaters were thermostatically controlled but you couldn't set a temperature - settings were marked Off, 1,

I've had two gas stoves (both in rented apartments) and an aunt had one for her whole adult life, that had no need of electricity. You lit the burners and the oven with a pilot light, or a match. No oven light bulb, no clock on the stove, nothing electrical at all. Not all gas appliances require electricity. Or at least, not all gas appliances always did.

Gee, that adds up to 101.4%, and that's before you add in the contributions made by hydroelectric (about 6%) or nuclear (around 20%). The US Department of Energy says coal generates "slightly over half of our electricity". Talk about ignorant.

ok guys,,, think ,,, wake up,,, your insurance co knows...... that is what they do . Punch numbers.....your rates dont go up for gas......call the guys that pay out everyday for all claims, ..... GAS is safe , so is Elec. when maintained..... nuff said....... New Subject......WHO is MY LOWLIFE CLOAN IMPOSTER , all takers but cloan

Why? for What? Now who in the hell are you talking at, you stupid f*ck? Will you ever use any usenet accepted protocol, or will you always be just a webtv s*it stain?

I wonder if EB realizes that gasoline is much more explosive than natural gas? Poor guy won't want to go anywhere any more with all those bombs driving around out there just waiting to blow up!

No kidding. I bet he mows his one-acre yard with a B&D electric mower, too. Or perhaps even a push reel one!

You, like the rest of the morons in this thread are like special olympics participants when you argue. when you're finished you're still retards.