Yesterday after dropping someone off at the airport, I needed gas.
The first gas station had a sign 30 or 40 feet high and 10 feet wide,
tha said Regular 3.59(9).
I pulled up to a pump and, unusually for me, I think, noticed a sign on
the pump that said "10 cent per gallon discount for cash".
I thought, "Well I was going to go inside anyhow to get a newspaper.
So I did. They had no papers but I gave the cashier 40 dollars.
Outside, he had zeroed the pump, but it still showed 3.59.9. I thought
the price would be 3.49.9 since I was paying cash.
Went back inside. He said no. It would be 3.69.9 if I used a credit
What do you all think? What would you do?
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:22:41 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
Complain to consumer affairs or similar, depending on what
you have in your area. Here in NJ they have all kinds of
bureaucrats sitting, waiting for those kinds of things.
I remember when a local gas station did a promo with a
radio station, where they were either giving away gas or
offering it at like half-price, don't remember the details.
What I do remember is that state officials were there within
hours, shutting it down, because it was illegal. Apparently
there is some state law on the books going back God knows
how many decades, that says you can't sell gas at less than
cost. What's even more interesting is that there were
bureaucrats sitting around, knowledgable about such obscure
laws, and ready to come shutdown and cite it. Interesting, no?
It's not the officials who jump on those, it's the competition.
They're the people who lobbied for the law in the first place, and as
soon as one of their competitors is seen to be breaking it, they
report it. We had quite a circus going on here several years ago with
a cult that bought a few gas stations, used their followers as unpaid
help, and sold their gas below the legal minimums. The surrounding gas
stations immediately reported it, since the point of the law was to
prevent competition from moving into an area and driving the other
stations out of business by artifically low prices (only to raise them
once the competition was gone). And with their slave labor and tax
exempt status, the cult could sell gas below cost and still make a profit.
Here in NC and even in GA, the signs for a lower cash price say
something like 3.59_9 "Cash" and if you run a credit card at the pump,
the price will jump to the cc price. Most of the one that have a cash
price, also include debit cards as 'cash'.
Back when Amoco stations were in my area, that's how they used to
price their gas. You'd pull in assuming it'd be ten cents off the
posted price, and then find a tiny sign on the pump indicating that
it'd be a dime more if you used a credit card.
Pretty much the way all that use the cash difference discount do it that
What I'd do would all depend on many factors...how badly I need the fuel
at the moment, how the price compared to where I normally did business
and whether had any cash as I don't have/use a debit card.
As a general rule I don't frequent those places as generally one can
find stations that don't surcharge at equivalent or near-so prices so
there's no point in it. Excepting for travel, all our fuel is bought at
the bulk distributorship on account excepting for what Lynda puts in her
car using the Dillons grocery discount. That 10-cent off pump price
ends up generally at about 2 or 3 less than the billed price from the
There was a place 5 blocks from my home, an Exxon, that charged more for
credit, but I'm 99% sure their signs made that clear, and how much each
cost, before one pulled in.
Other than these two, I don't remember any discouts for cash.
Was worried I'd run out of gas while taking a person to the airport, but
the low-gas-light hadn't even come on yet.
I can't keep track.
I had both.
I told them I wanted my money back and even though I'd turned down the
receipt 4 minutes earlier, because I was sure I wouldn't need it, he
gave me the 40 dollars with no trouble. After all, he just works
On the way out, I looked at another customer's pump and he was paying
the 10cents more.
That's called "misleading advertising", and you might want to call your
state or provincial government and talk to someone in the Consumer
If the advertised price is $3.59 and a sign says "10 cents off for
cash", then the price you pay should be $3.49 per gallon.
What they should do is set the price on the pump to $3.69 and put up a
sign saying "10 cents off for cash". Then, you'd know what you're
By the way, it's real risky to pay for your gasoline at the pump with a
credit card. There are only a few keys which open every gasoline pump
in Canada and the USA, and all someone has to do is get their hands on a
set of pump keys and put their own card reader into that pump. That
card reader will gather all the information on every credit card that's
put into it, and save that info for whomever installed the card reader.
As often as not, it's the guy working at an all night gas station that's
putting his card reader into the gas pumps to gather credit card
information. Here in Canada, our CBC program "Marketplace" did a study
on people who had lost money because someone had obtained their credit
card information and pin numbers, and they found that the highest
percentage of those occurances were when people used their credit cards
to pay for gas at the pump. And, it was because the security of a gas
pump is minimal compared to all the security against credit card
information theft there is on other purchases, like in-store purchases.
Got Photoshop or a page layout program?
Whip up some flyers for $2.99/gal gasoline at this crooks service station and distribute them all around.
Maybe even toss in a free car wash. Hehehhhheeeeeheheeeeeee!
Here in the Chicago area, places that have car washes post prices 10 -15 ce
nts lower than competing gas stations. Then, they post in tiny letters (wi
th car wash) underneath the posted price, and also lower down on the sign t
hey post the 10 -15 cent higher price with no notations. But it is always
the 10-15 cents cheaper price that goes on the top of the sign and the larg
est size numbers.
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 11:23:01 -0700 (PDT), " firstname.lastname@example.org"
Even that would be better than not posting it at all.
I made a point to look at the sign again before I left, but now that I
found the Ann Arundel County Department of Consumer Affairs, I feel the
need to look again, and take pictures. My friend comes back in about 2
weeks and I'll probably pick him up, so I'll look then. It's right
next to the air freight offices.
I've also looked at other stations and found one with the letters C A S
H, in 3" letters, vertically on the street side of the 30 foot pillar
that, with the other pillar, holds the prices. That's probably big
enough to satisfy me. But there are many stations to check out.
I dont like gas station TV but am not there long enough to really irritate
SAMS club and costco are generally 15 to 20 cents per gallon for gas. PA go
venor corbett stuck it to everyone ramroding thru a gas tax and fees increa
se, much of it to go mass transit. In pittsburgh thats PAT Transit, they ha
ve built 2 bus ways and one light rail to the airport none of which ever go
t anywhere near the airport:( however they did build a tunnel under the riv
er, while a mostly abandoned rail road bridge could of been used for a frac
tion of the cost, and included service to the convention center....
corbett gutted the $ for education I sincerly hope he DOES NOT GET RE ELECT
If he has a campaign rally around here I will go to heckle him. he is the w
orst govenor pa has ever had
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