OK guys, I need a recommendation for good one. The original one died
a few years ago and I replaced it with an Insinkerator. That thing
just isn't grinding fine enough and I'm getting way too many
blockages. The material in the blockage is more big & coarse than the
original produced. It must be the blades causing the problem, and
they do spin free. Anyone know of a better model?
If you bought an upper end Insinkerator it has a lifetime guarantee
with in home replacement.
I had a low end one wear out in a couple of years.
No guarantee either.
The replacement is still going after 10 years.
I looked into this a few months ago, looked at a lot of
reviews, etc. Decided Waste King was the best value deal.
They have a long in home warranty, longer than Insinkerator,
and a lot less money. This one replaced a basic Insinkerator
that a builder installed, lasted only 6 years. The WK was
about $100 versus $180 for an Insinkerator.
I also have a better model Insinkerator, about 5 years old now
and it's been fine. The biggest difference between the two is that
the Insinkerator is quieter. The Waste King makes a lot of noise
when you first install it and it starts up. Makes a loud clang/bang,
which must be the cutting heads spinning out or something. But,
with food actually in it, it's less noisey. Still, it makes more
on startup and somewhat more noise when running than the
Insinkerator. How much that matters depends on you.
The other thing that's different, Insinkerator uses a neat flange
design so that you install the flange, then the disposal just goes
underneath and you turn a lock ring to secure it. MAkes it easier
to hang. The WK uses a rubber mounting piece with clamps, so
you have to hold/support the unit and then tighten the clamps.
Same conclusion I reached last fall. I got 10 years out of my last
insinkerator, but couldn't find another 3/4hp one.
The Waste king is 3/4hp, 8 yr warranty & was $108, delivered to my
door from buyplumbing.net.
Mine is *different* sounding than the old insinkerator, but I couldn't
call it noisier-- though I'm comparing to an 8yr old dying one.
We agree on that count, too. but the WK was easier to put in than
it looked like it was going to be from the directions.
Here are links to 3/4 hp InSinkErators at both HD and Lowes:
Unless they've changed their tactics lately, HD and Lowes (and
Insinkerator too, I guess) play games with their model numbers so that
you can't price match. There will be one small feature difference
between the models carried by each store so the model numbers will be
slightly different. 1/8 of a hp here, a bit more sound insulation
there, and you can't play one store against the other. At least that's
what I ran into when I was shopping for a disposal a few years back.
Good the hear you had similar thoughts. I don't know about
your WK, but one other difference between my WK and
the Insinkerator is that the WK came with a pre-attached cord. Since
mine was direct wire, I had to remove the cord
and then direct wire it in. No big deal, but it added a bit to
I don't know about the WK, but another nice feature of the
InSinkErator Evolution Series is that the rubber drain baffle is
removable. Not only does the baffle reduce the noise (as it is
designed to do) it will also last almost indefinitely.
My old Kenmore had a baffle that was sandwiched between the sink and
the drain ring. After a couple of years of shoving my hand through the
baffle to retrieve a pop top tab or bread bag tie (darn kids!) the
baffle started to rip. Once the rip started, larger items would fall
through, like small bars of soap, etc. Retrieving those put more wear
and tear on the baffle. It was a never ending cycle. Replacing the
baffle meant dropping the disposal and dismantling sink drain, so it
never got done.
The InSinkErator baffle is so much tighter that I never have to
retrieve anything from the disposal, but if I want to rinse something
"large" into the disposal, the baffle just lifts right out. No wear
and tear and full access to the inside of the disposal if needed. If
something does happen to it (and I don't see how) I can just drop a
new one in it's place.
I couldn't be happier and have no doubt that I'll buy another
InSinkErator if this one should go bad.
That's a good point that I forgot. And it's one of those things
that you would not know until it's too late. On the WK, the
rubber baffle thingy is not removable. I agree, having it
removable is better. Expecially when you drop something
in there and need to get it out. Pulling it out makes it easier
to get your hand down there. It's also good that you can
clean it once in a while too.
Not only does the baffle reduce the noise (as it is
InSinkErator has a couple of different series of disposals and a few
different models within each series. We'd be hardpressed to suggest a
"better model" - InSinkErator or other - unless we knew what model you
However, before we even go down the "better model" path, I have to
ask: What kind of pipes do you have?
20 plus years ago I bought a house that didn't have a disposal. The
drains were galvanized and at the time I knew nothing about plumbing,
so I gave the keys to a trusted plumber and asked him to install one
for me. He called me a few hours later and said that my galvanized
pipes were so clogged with grease and other crap that there was no way
they could handle a disposal. He said he needed to replace the
galvanized with PVC from the sink to the sewer line in the basement,
maybe 6 - 8 feet worth.
When I got home and looked at the various sections of pipe that he had
cut out, there was nothing buy a small spiral hole through the grease.
I couldn't see more than a couple of inches into any pipe.
We've raised 4 kids, 2 dogs and 3 cats (they eat too!) in this house
and have gone through 2 disposals - a Kenmore POS and an InSinkErator
Evolution - with not one single clog. I love the InSinkErator both
because it is extremely quiet and because the rubber drain baffle is
removable in case something falls into the disposal that shouldn't.
Are you sure it's the disposal that's the problem and not something
further down the line that should be dealt with?
I'm also wondering how in the world large pieces of
anything could get through the disposa? I can see ground
up stuff building up somehow, but I would not think big
pieces of anything could get through a disposl.
Double sink. Right side goes straight down, thru a 'T', and into the
trap. Left side goes thru the disposal, into the 'T' and down. The
'T' has a split internal opening, drain 'R' on one side and drain 'L'
in the other. Being a 1 1/2" drain pipe, that allows each side to be
a 3/4" opening. That can cause a blockage of the disposal side
although it is usually rare. Most blockages occur where the trap
output T's into the drop line/vent to the main sewer line.
As Oren said, greens are a big problem. A recent golf ball sized
piece of ham, no fat, shredded horizontally in strips and clogged in
the drain T's 3/4" side. Even egg shells don't break small enough to
get thru without causing problems. Makes you wonder just what will
get thru ok. My wife clogs it up and hollers for help a lot.
The original disposal, a Frigidaire IIRC, never caused a blockage in
20+ years, so I can't blame the PVC undersink plumbing. The one now
has not been as good, but this Insinkerator might be the lower grade
instead of the higher one. The rubber baffle is not removable on this
I'm not looking for a fix, just a recommended good model - and it's
sounding a lot like a Waste King or top size Insinkerator.
On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:38:34 AM UTC-7, Red wrote:
Aside from loading, instead of slowly feeding items to your disposal or not
turning on the water all the way your blockage problem may be with your fa
ucet. What is the size of the water connector supplying water to your fauce
t? Is it 3/8”, 7/16” or ½”? If you have one of those pretty faucets
with a 3/8” connector you’re probably not running enough water. Get a
commercial faucet with a ½” connector.
On Apr 15, 10:41 pm, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
ot turning on the water all the way your blockage problem may be with your
faucet. > What is the size of the water connector supplying water to your f
aucet? Is it 3/8”, 7/16” or ½”? If you have one of those pretty fau
cets with a 3/8” connector
a ½” connector.
Speaking of faucets and flow rates, I called Kohler to get a
replacement head for my "fancy faucet". While looking up the part
number, I came across a replacement aerator that increases the flow
from 1.8 GPM to 2.2 GPM.
When I told the CSR to toss a "high flow adapter" in the box he said
"Have you checked with your local authorities to see if 2.2 GPM
exceeds the maximum flow rate for your municipality?"
"Of course!" I answered. "It's fine."
After I hung up, I got to thinking. Assuming a municipality has a
maximum flow rate for faucets, shower heads, etc. do they also have
flow rate restrictions on hose bibs?
My hose bibs are plumbed in before the PRV so I get street pressure
and lots of flow. I never heard of municipal flow rate restrictions
for hose bibs. Do they exist?
not turning on the water all the way your blockage problem may be with you
r faucet. > What is the size of the water connector supplying water to your
faucet? Is it 3/8”, 7/16” or ½”? If you have one of those pretty f
aucets with a 3/8” connector
h a ½” connector.
I've never heard of such a restriction. Also, no restriction
that I've heard of around here, NJ, for lawn sprinkler systems
either. And you can sure go through a lot of water when
you have 25 heads that run 2 GPM. The most they do is restrict
watering to odd/even days when there is a shortage. Does
that even do anything? I guess it cuts down on some percentage
of those that are dumb enough to be watering every day. And
if it gets really bad, then they would ban lawn watering all together,
but that hasn't happened here.
But I think part of the issue is that it's not just the water used,
it's the waste water generated that then goes through the
municipal sewers. With a hose bib or lawn watering, that
generally doesn't wind up in the sewers, while your faucet
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