Frost Proof Sillcock Froze and Split

[clare]

By the way, the "silcock" is the old all-outside shutoff. The "frostproof" is a "hydrant"

[DerbyDad03]

Do a google image search on frost proof hydrant.

Lots of pics of vertical, in-the-ground, devices like this...

...with a few pics of the through-the-wall devices that we have been discussing in this thread.

Then do an image search on frost proof sillcock.

Nothing but through-the-wall devices.

Maybe it's a regional thing?

[clare]

Could be. Up here in Canada (Ontario, anyway) the frostproofs are called hydrants. The non-frostproof are called sillcocks, or simply faucets. A hydrant is considered to be a self draining direct acting remote water valve (dry hydrant)

[krw]

Your house is probably old enough that it's leaking enough heat to keep the silcocks from freezing.

[krw]

Nonsense. A frost free silcock is just one variation of a silcock. It is still a silcock (a stopcock that mounts through the sil of a house).

[DerbyDad03]

My back yard spigot goes through the block wall, not the sill. Where do I buy a frost free wallcock?

[Stormin Mormon]

Wall Mart?

[trader4]

I'm, pretty sure you're now on my list of pedantic idiots. Next time you make some post, the meaning of which is obvious, I'll make sure to rip you apart too based on super strict interpretations. The simple fact is that once people turn off, winterize whatever it is, they usually don't turn it back on because they don't want to go through the inconvenience. And to me, to wash something off outside with a hose, it would be very inconvenient to take a ladder from the gararge, carry it through the house to the basement, get up to turn the valve to the sillcock back on, repeat the process after I'm done, etc. Given the PIA the whole thing is, you typically wouldn't use the freaking outside sillcocks until spring, unless it was absolutely necessary.

For the enlightened, there is a very easy solution. That is a freeze-proof sillcock. You want to do it the way it was done

50 years ago and pretend that is practical, be my guest.

[krw]

Find a hole in a tree. Check for bees first.

[DerbyDad03]

Feel free to make that your life's work.

Have you ever heard the phrase "renting space in your head"? I guess I just moved in.

But please, for the love of God and all that is sacred, stop bringing up frost free sillcocks and ladders and garages and all that other crap. If you've got a problem with me calling you on your use of the phrase "no water available outside for months", that's fine. What is getting so tiring is that you appear to think it's about something else. It's not. Really, it's not. I've actually said that in no uncertain terms in my previous posts.

If it'll make you feel better, I'll install a frigging frost free sillcock so you'll realize it has never, ever been about that.

[trader4]

Good grief. Are you losing your mind? The whole thread was about frost-proof sillcocks, but now that's crap and I'm not supposed to bring it up? As for needing a ladder and having to get one from the garage down into the basement to turn the water back on it's not crap. It's the process I'd have to go through to be able to wash off something in Jan if I didn't have frost-proof ones. It's such a PIA, that most people wouldn't do it, unless they really had to. Hence, God forgive me for saying that with a regular sillcock you don't have water outside for months. I figure most folks here have enough brains to know what I meant and that if someone really wanted to turn it back on, of course they could. But perhaps there are some dolts here that think that it's on some time lock, where once it's off, it can't be put back on until April. I'm sure they appreciate your helping them out.

If

[DerbyDad03]

Apparently so. You know that definition of insanity related to trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result? Well, I'm there.

Regardless of how many times I say that I have no issue with the use of frost free sillcocks and that the one and only single solitary item I took issue with was a specific phrase ("no water available outside for months") you still keep harping about sillcocks and ladders.

You even amended your statement about "no water" so somewhere deep down inside you seem to understand that that specific phrase is all I have been talking about. Yet for some reason, you still feel the need to try and convince me that I'm wrong about sillcocks and ladders and people's reluctance to use their shutoff during the winter.

Good grief is right.

There ya go! It sure would have saved a lot of typing if you had just done that sooner.

Now we can finally put this discussion to rest. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

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[trader4]

I acknowledged that point in my first reply to you. But you won't accept, nor hear the relevant part, that it's often a PIA to turn the water back on again, just because you want to wash out a garbage can in January. That PIA, in my case would involve getting a ladder from the garage, hauling it through the house to the basement, just to open a valve. THAT is why in most cases once they are shut off, they remain off until spring. That you really could turn the thing back on again if you really wanted to, was obvious to everyone. So, who's the stubborn ass here? I acknowledged your point, the for several posts now, but you keep making posts where you say I can't even talk about sillcocks, ladders, what a PIA it is to go open the re-winterize one just for a bucket of water, etc.

No go f*ck yourself. How's that? Is that an acceptable part of the discussion?

[DerbyDad03]

Wow! You seem to be spitting and sputtering all over your keyboard. Just how far into your head have I gotten? Starting a Sunday on such an angry note is real shame.

As for your latest suggestion, I think not. Instead, I'm going to spend the day with the woman who did a fine job taking care of that for me last night.

Now, take a deep breath, relax, and enjoy what's left of the weekend.

[trader4]

I'm spitting and sputtering? Yet here YOU are, replying yet again. Post after post when I acknowledged your point many posts ago. See how I make you dance.

Just

What size sillcock did she use when she did you?

I bet that's what she said.