i've never had one, but i've been told that they use less water and are in
general better. can someone tell me why if that's true?
i'd like to know the pros and cons if anyone has any experience with them
Not true IMO except for areas where water is *very* limited.
1) Uses a lot less water and somewhat less energy.
2) They are expensive so they can be used as status symbols by the
conspicuous consumption crowd.
1) You pay *a lot* for the water/energy you save. I doubt if the
savings will come anywhere near covering the additional purchase
2) The seal on the door is the weak point.
Like, Europe :-) They also wear clothes less, with less soap and energy.
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I like the Philips horizontal axis top loader, which uses a lot less energy
because it takes longer to wash, with lots of soaking and only occasional
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#1. Cost much more than top loader but will only last as long as a top
loader. (Quality is no better than the average top loader)
#2 Water is cheap in most cities so it will not noticeably save you money.
#3 They say they are better for your clothes? I see no difference with the
Maytag and Frigidaire's I have owned.
I will never buy another front loader. My wife might---he he he!
I think they are not inherently unreliable, as they have been widely
used in Europe for many years, although the European machines are
usually smaller. Any unreliability problems would be more likely to be
the result of cost-cutting manufacturing techniques. And there are some
who would believe that manufacturers design in a level of unreliability
so they can sell more replacements.
The lack of an agitator is, in my opinion, the greatest advantage, as
that would tend to make your fabrics last longer.
I think most also require special detergents, which may or may not be an
Personally, I am looking into a front loader that includes drying
capacity. They are pricey, but you save space and can put them anywhere
as no exhaust ducting is needed, and I think the time saved by not
having to be there to move the load from the washer to the dryer will be
well worth the cost.
We have an LG front-load washer/dryer, and it's hard to imagine going
back to a setup that requires taking wet clothes oput and putting
them in the dryer. I can load it up on my way to work in the morning
and have clean, *dry* clothes when I get home. Or load it up at
night and have clean, dry clothes in the morning.
The energy savings are quite impressive, too, since it has a
condenser drying cycle -- low enough energy use that it plugs into a
standard 120v outlet. And it's nice not to worry about dryer
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However, you can only do one load at a time (which works well for
you). But I do all my laundry (whites, colors, etc) when the hamper
is full, so the ability to overlap washing/drying saves time.
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Pros: Use less water and use less detergent and less electricity. They can
spin up to a faster and eliminate more water from the clothes so they dry
fasyer in the dryer, which is another savings. Can do really large loads,
which for me is great because we have kids and there's always things that
need to be washed. Quieter than a top loader. Can be stacked. Fun to
Cons: None so far except initial expense. The gasket on the front door
could be a leak source, but we haven't had any problems. You may need a
pedestal (sold seperately) to raise them to a more comfortable level for
I think the biggest difference is they do a better job agitating the
clothes. In a top loader, the agitator tries to swish the clothes
around in the tub. In the front loader, the clothes are constantly
falling on top of each other. IMO, that does a better job of
circulating them all around constantly and randomly. In my Kenmore
toploader, on the normal speed setting, I can see clothes that stay in
the same position for a long time, like on the outside of the tub, not
moving much at all.
How much of a difference this makes in how clean things come out or
whether it's worth the big price difference is another story. As to
using less water, while it's true that the cost of water isn't that
much in most places, the cost of hot water is definitely a factor.
Again, how much you wash will determine how much that amounts to.
Exactly. Also, since there is less water in the machine,
the water/soap solution is more concentrated. Also, the front
loaders are very quiet compared to the top loaders, especially
during the wash cycle.
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I think that is a good evaluation. I will add a couple of things.
They tend more expensive and have not been found to be more reliable or
longer lasting than top loaders. Some are better, but some are not.
They also tend to treat clothing easier, so your clothing will last and
little longer and will look a little better longer.
My next one will be a front loader. Right now I have a 15+ year old
Maytag top loader, made back when Maytag was better than most.
water. So that would mean less gas to heat water so that would be a savings.
I don't think the factor of water and gas savings would be as much as the
salesman say.We also bought the matching dryer. One thing mentioned was the
gasket on the door we were told the water dose not get that high.( I'm sure
water will never touch that door) My wife said it took awhile to get use to
the front load, but comments on how much they hold and how well they work.
We have about a month on them now so far so good but I'm pretty convinced
most products are disposable theses days.
My wife was unsure, but once we got used to it she now says we will
never go back to a top load washer.
A lot less water. My Kenmore uses 14 gal/load compared to 40/load on a
top loader. At 10 loads per week (easy with 3 kids) thats thousands of
gallons a year.
I also use less enrgy to heat the water.
I do fewer loads per week. In my old top loader if you overstuffed it
the cloths on top would not even get wet during the wash cycle. This
will wash what I can put into it.
It takes better care of clothes by not having an agitator. This will
my your clothes last longer, saving even more money. Being gentler it
also lets me wash things I never could before, delicates,
Handwashables. I washed an outfit that had a maribou trim (feathers
for you guys without little girls).
With a faster spin speed the clothes come out with less moisture.
meaning less time spent in the Dryer.
Wrinkles. If you use the faster spin speeds (1000 rpm on mine) your
mice shirts will have more wrinkles and need to be pressed. Use Normal
spin for dress shirts and Fast for towels and sheets.
You need the HE soap. I just buy the Sears brand with Oxiclean in it
when it goes on sale.
Takes a little getting used to. Seems too quiet when washing and
sounds like it is going to take off when the Spin starts. Things don't
drop back in when you drop them.
Because the clothes are damp instead of wet when the wash is done they
need to be moved to the dryer instead of being left in the wash a
couple of days.
Curly Sue wrote:
I have a Frigidaire front loader. (the classic design with a small "port
hole" in the front center, unlike the Neptune) You can pull the timer
knob to pause it, and the door unlocks so you can add that dirty sock
you found after starting the load. The water comes up just below the
door. If you used too much soap a little suds may spill out, but that's it.
The other good thing about the design: It's spin cycle runs at a very high
RPM so when the load is done, the clothes basically come out damp (as
opposed to wet) which means less drying time.
I have the Whirlpool Duets and i thought my wife was crazy at first (for
buying them) but we love 'em.....
We love our Kenmore front-loader (made by Frigidaire, which is now owned
We've had one repair: the controller module had to be replaced, but it
was covered by our service plan/extended warranty. Otherwise the part
would have been $200+ (plus labor).
The service guy said the most common problem with them (at least with
this model) is bearing failure (mucho espensivo to fix -- more than the
cost of a new machine -- because it takes two people at least a couple
of hours, plus a whole new drum/bearing/shaft assembly). But the most
common cause of this failure, he said, is using ordinary detergent
instead of the low-sudsing detergent made specially for front-loaders;
we stock up at Sears when they have it for half price.
On 08/11/05 11:40 pm FH tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:
I saw a kid nearly get killed in one of those things on TV, the door
wouldnt open once the cycle started and he was trapped.
Make damn sure you can open the door any time and also, I wouldnt even think
of owning one of those if i had young kids.
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