Freezer question, your experience.

[Tony Hwang]

Hmmm, You don't know how bad milk is for intestinal well being? There are thing my family stay away as much as possible; milk, sugar, salt = poison! Gallon of milk? Must be crazy!

[salty]

Milk freezes quite well in the original half gallon carton. Just decant about a cup to make room for expansion. When it thaws, the texture is a little off, but if you are pouring it on your cornflakes, you will never even notice.

Is ice cream inedible if it melts?

[Doug Miller]

That isn't really true -- at most, one or two pounds of cold air escapes and is replaced with warm air. That has almost zero effect on the temperature inside.

[Jim Elbrecht]

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I suspect I've lost more $ with the chest freezers I've owned through lost food than I have through the 'air dump' of the uprights. [minimized by keeping the freezer full- even if it is just jugs of ice or bread.]

My neighbor wasn't that big-- but a few minutes with my electric chainsaw & he fit in my upright just fine.

I've owned both & prefer the upright for most use. If I was buying a whole cow every year I might consider a dedicated 'beef freezer'.

Jim

[salty]

It has a very deleterious effect on items that you want to keep for a long time. The warm air that goes in also is loaded with moisture, which is another enemy of DEEP freezers.

[h]

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== h is 53, likes milk just fine, but hates idiots. PLONK!

[Sqwertz]

Take out the shelves and stand them upright.

Ever try and stuff a rigor mortis'ed body into a chest freezer?

-sw

[Sqwertz]

How does non-pressurized air have weight?

-sw

[Doug Miller]

The same way anything else has weight. Did you really think that air weighs nothing?

BTW, there's no such thing as "non-pressurized air". The air you're breathing right now has a pressure of 1 atmosphere, equal to about 14.7 pounds per square inch.

[blake murphy]

jeez, no wonder i'm wheezing. i thought it was the cigarettes.

your pal, blake

[Sqwertz]

Yes. All my scales currently read "0". Yet sitting on top of them are billions of cubic feet of air.

OK, So I had to look it. I don't know the logic behind it, but 1 cubic foot of air at standard temperature and pressure assuming average composition weighs approximately 0.0807 lbs.

So to understand your comment, one would have to know the weight of 0F (approximately) air and then convert that to cubic feet to get any sort of sense what the f*ck you actually mean.

Anybody know that off the top of their head? (Some dumbass will of course look it up, post it, and claim they knew it. but this is Usenet - shit like that is a given).

-sw

[Ophelia]

lol

[AZ Nomad]

Let us know when you own a scale that has 5 sides in a vacuum and just the measuring part exposed to air.

[Larry]

My ATV tires take 3 psi yet they don't collapse! Read up on atmospheric pressure.

[tmclone]

Just wait until it comes out of rigor, of course.

[AZ Nomad]

It's 3PSI above atmospheric presure, dumbass.

[Doug Miller]

You're the one that needs to do the reading. Pressure gauges do *not* measure absolute pressure. Google the difference between psig and psia.

[Sqwertz]

Dude, I got one right here. But how do I use that to determine how much cold air I'm losing when I open my freezer?

-sw

[Sqwertz]

Yeah - What Larry said! You tell em Larry!

-sw

[AZ Nomad]

Simple. Evacuate the air from the room. Place freezer on scale, take reading. Open freezer door, let air out. Take another reading. Subtract second from first.