I'm at the point of floor installation in my new addition. I want to paint
the floors of the laundry room and shop area. About 300 sf.
How clean does the floor have to be? It has some residual drywall mud on it
now, but not a lot. Some crud from construction, but not a lot. Wednesday
and Thursday, we're going to paint the walls and ceiling, and more will be
getting on there. If necessary, I can put drop cloth on it. We're going to
Just how clean does the concrete have to be to apply the epoxy stuff? How
many different kinds of GOOD floor paints are there? I don't want to be
doing this every couple of years.
What kind of floor prep is usual and customary? I know scraping, and
getting the bad stuff and dirt and all, but what about stuff that's just
slightly into the surface of the concrete? Maybe rent a big rotary
scrubber. Oh boy, those things are always fun!
If you've done the epoxy with little hand applied sprinkles and sand, how do
you like it? How's it lasting? I've seen some jobs that looked great.
painting concrete is never a good idea, it creates a ongoing maintence
move washer to replace a hose, ooops we damaged he paint job.
it never lasts although epoxy paints are somewhat better.
honestly your better off putting down tile, looks nicer lasts longer.
if you but the commercial type where the color is thru the entire tile
scratches arent a big issue, since the color is the same
Drywall mud will scrape off easily. Anything above the surface is going to show
big time when it's coated.
Prep is 90% of a good job. You don't want to be taking shortcuts here.
That shouldn't be necessary. Just make sure you can't feel it by running your
hand across with your eyes closed.
I like two part epoxies _a lot_. Sprinkles & sand are optional. I put it down in
a Michigan winter garage and it looked new for over 10 years. It is slippery
when wet though, so if that's a concern, they sell a special grit (it's not
common sand). Two coats and follow the directions _exactly_.
anything on or in the suface which is softer or causes poor adhesion,
like drywall mud or wax as 2 examples will leave poor adhesion
areas...... so something scrapes along the suface in one of those
areas the coating peels off and its time to recoat.
paint is the worst, but any coating is a bad idea.
vinyl tile looks good, theres lots of choices.
My other home had a painted concrete floor painted by a previous
owner. it was a real PIA
I used Rustoleum Professional 2 part epoxy with a clear coat on my garage
floor. I've got to say, the stuff is very tough and durable and looks nice
too. I have no issues with peeling, cracking, or all the doom and gloom
that hallerb is talking about. Cars have rolled across it daily for years
and it still looks great. As with any concrete paint, prep is key. I
etched my floor prior to application, but for a laundry/shop area, you'd
probably be fine with a good wash/scrub/degrease.
If your laundry room is inside the house, I'd advise you use water-base
epoxy instead of solvent base. Solvent base paint is excellent, but it
stinks to high hell. If you do use solvent base epoxy, please use a
respirator when applying it. You'll find yourself floating somewhere close
to the ceiling if you don't!! ;-)
Sprinkles and sand are optional. The sprinkles look OK, but I would advise
against adding sand. I've heard bad things about doing that.
I don't care what ANYONE says - you can't ventilate a basement well enough
to vacate the fumes from epoxy - not for days or weeks or worse. You could
remove the house, but then it wouldn't be a basement any more.
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 12:24:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
I epoxied my basement floor 15 years ago. It still looks great and
well worth it. I suggest leaving the house for a couple days after
application--after that you should be okay. Fish and birds should be
relocated for a week.
today the product is not the same the environmental rules hurt the
products durability. what the OP does doesnt really matter to me, but
might to the next owner......
I spent a fortune trying to remove the previous owners paint job. no
stripper worked well, except making floor way more slippery than ice,
i fell several times before giving up.
having removed a lot of the 5 previous coats of paint I tiled the
floor, only to have adhesion troubles from the remaining paint.
my comments are based on the frustration I had with the previous owner
who painted the floor to start with.
if your going to paint anyway and the home is new wait a tear the
concrete is still curing, outgassing moisture. you will mess that up
with a layer of paint.
tile looks nicer, is easier to maintain and affordable
The results are directly related to the prep work. The floor needs to
be 99.9997% clean. Anything less than perfect will cause problems. Follow
the instructions with the materials you plan to use and if there is any
doubt at all, do more, but never think that you can skip even a little bit
when cleaning. Nearly all failures and those who are not happy with the
results comes from improper prep work. The other problems are caused by
poor materials or or application.
I would recommend avoiding any material that is not a true two part
The instructions come with the product. The primary issues are removing
any loose material and any oil based contaminate. You also likely will need
an acid cleaning. Venting during cleaning an the application of the
material is important so plan ahead for that.
This all may sound like a lot of work, but it is not too bad.
I have no experience with the sand type stuff. It sounds like it could
help with the problem of wet-slippery conditions.
You also might want to look into one of the commercially applied
products that have that sprinkles look. I know of a couple of people who
have had it done are are happy with the results.
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