I received a bid for a cedar mod panel fence for about $23 per foot with posts set in concrete. For 10% more, they would put a metal pipe inside the posts and set the pipe in concrete. This is supposed to last longer. Has anyone any experience with this? I have to decide whether this upgrade is worth it. Some of my old fence posts did break at the ground level due to moisture.
Wood in contact with soil is the major cause of fence failure. Poor detailing that traps moisture & prevents the fence from drying is another significant cause.
So the metal pipe will help a lot IF the bottom of the post is not in contact with the soil.
If the bottom of the fence boards touch the soil, the will still be at risk for rot.
What size pipe? And do they use other design details that will avoid rot / termites & extend fence life?
An extra 10% seems pretty cheap to add a feature that will add a few years (at least) to the fence life.
The answers are yes, no, definitely, and maybe. I love it when someone writes in here, and doesn't give a clue about what they are asking about or where they live.
Meaning ........... what part of the country is this in? You said some of them had rotted off, so I would ASS-U-ME that you live where rot is a consideration. I live in Nevada and Utah, and fence posts lasts for decades out in the worst of conditions.
I am a big fan of do it once, do it right. I would have the metal poles set in concrete with a small wash on every one. A wash is a rounded top to the concrete that keeps the water from pooling around the base of the pipe. Have the wash extend a couple of inches above the soil line.
Fence post failure is a big PITA because you have to take down a lot to change a fence post. And then you're back in the same position, .......... wood or steel?
Do it once, do it right.
YMMV. You might be rich and have a lot of money and it doesn't matter. If that's the case, please contact me at your earliest convenience as I have a bridge for sale, and it is priced very reasonably. No qualifying, either.
I have not heard of the [metal pipe inside the wooden post] technique.
I would not build a wooden fence, in ANY area of our fine country, unless the posts were of steel and set properly in concrete. No wood posts or wood touching the ground PERIOD. Good luck.
However, it is typical that the "good" side faces "out" from the newly fenced area. Chainlink, vinyl, wood, it doesn't matter - they "all" face out.
I suppose this is to improve the appearance of the fenced property when viewed from OUTSIDE the property.
Like others have said, it may be code, it looks better when people look at your property, and it is neighbor friendly. You can comply with code, improve the appearance on both sides of the fence, and keep the neighbors happy, by using a fence that looks the same on both sides. IMHO, a chain link fence doesn't look good on either side.
Why should I care what people think when they look at my property? I've got to look at it every day - they can just drive on.
Neighbor friendly? That's not a reason. I could give my neighbor $10 every day - that would be the 'neighbor friendly thing to do - but obviously an insane approach. I am not responsible for his artistic sensitivities. If he doesn't like the looks of the fence, he's welcome to build his own! Heck, I'd even let him attach HIS fence to MY posts (that's the neighbor-friendly thing to do).
I agree. Chain-link, stone, brick, barbed-wire: all look the same from either side.
If code allows that. Since the setback may be some distance from the property line, the fences cannot be connected without violating the setback requirement. But you can do whatever you like regardless of the code, but be sure to be friendly with the neighbors. Most code violations are reported by neighbors.
on 3/8/2008 11:22 AM Jim Redelfs said the following:
A chain link fence on a property line is a trespass preventing marker. It is unfriendly by saying, "This is mine. Do not pass". The only unfriendly chain link fence is one around an inground pool, other unsafe area, or an animal enclosure. A solid fence is a privacy fence, for both sides.
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