Hmmm... I've never considered that! Most of the documents that I'm
converting *from* some ebook format (*to* PDF's) would have
already lost/forfeit any notion of the original page numbers.
I think most ebook formats are like HTML in the sense that they
concentrate on *content*, not *form*.
Maybe I'll try converting a PDF (with VISIBLE page numbers) into
a MOBI/EPUB/etc. and then back again to gauge how things "move"
in the process.
"Once a document is available" is NOT the first step in the process and
I don't have a resident guru. :)
dunno if they usually renumber ebook pages or not (and a lot of books
have more that one print edition) but here's a comparison of pages for
You mentioned in an earlier post:
"For example, a recent read (for me) was _Snow Crash_ -- just under 500pp
in an ~8x10" format."
I have an epub file of that book - from the cover illustration & other
info in the epub file I'm guessing it's based on the "Bantam Spectra
trade paperback reissue / September 2003".
lessee. . . rats - didn't find that paperback version online but. ..
"Length 480 pages"
Looking at the epub file (on one of my Nooks) it says 463 pages which is
not a lot different from 480 or your ~ 500 page count.
I've got an older Kindle Keyboard:
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which is equivalent to the current Paperwhite
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I've been very happy with it. You can either buy from Amazon or sideload
via the USB port. Many of the Amazon books are free or very inexpensive
if you're not into the NYT best sellers.
Calibre can convert from a number of formats to the mobi format.
Instructions for sideloading are here;
The way our library works is the eBooks are actually received from Amazon.
Some models are 3G. The 'special offers' are very non-intrusive.
Basically you get a varying selection of ads when the device is turned
off, not some popup every time you turn the page.
The Kindle app is available for tablets and PCs also as well as the
hardware Kindles. If you're connected (3G or WiFi) your material is
synched; read to page 103 on the Kindle at home, and when you go to that
book on a PC at work, you'll be on 103.
Battery life is excellent as long as the WiFi is turned off. A charge
lasts several weeks instead of several hours with a tablet. While I
still like paper, the Kindle experience is almost as good and if you're
traveling it beats a heavy bag full of books.
One nice feature is the dictionary. It comes with an english dictionary
but I purchased a German to English dictionary. Put the cursor over an
unfamiliar word and it pops up a definition most of the time. German
being German, some of the compound words or verb forms don't work smoothly.
I'm not sure if the titles she reads are strictly on the NYT best seller list
but they are most definitely "new issues". We can't, for example, get a
title issued in the past 12 months through interlibrary loan (if our library
doesn't have the title). So, you're pretty much stuck waiting for them
to buy some copies -- and *hoping* they do!
Yes, I think at least some of the "etitles", here, come direct from Amazon.
Some sort of hybrid personal+library account; so it's not *just* the
library that is acquiring it.
"This toilet paper brought to you by..."
Then, the document and state are stored in the cloud?
She typically just reads at home. I.e., if the library would *loan*
a device preloaded with the book she wants she'd be happy. (well,
more happy than if she had to find a device to start with; less happy
than if they just gave her a *book*!)
Different experience, of course. You're not really "interacting" with
When I (used to!) travel, I would buy/take a single novel (~500pp) for
the trip. The ~2+ hour wait in the outgoing airport plus the ~2+ hour wait
in the returning airport would be just enough time to finish it. A pad and
paper for the actual plane ride(s) -- reading on a plane is too sedate
for my preference.
Hmmm... a *regular* dictionary may be helpful for her. When she opts
to read things that get a bit technical, I get lots of, "Don, what does..."
(sigh) I'll have to put something in her hands and see how she likes
it. Despite having moved my leisure and technical libraries onto
"media", I still gravitate towards titles that I can "hold" in my
hands -- esp leisure reading.
[We have a fair number of used book stores, here. And, the public library
has frequent sales of discarded/donated titles. So, I can often find something
there for $1/title. Or, $5/bag! Then, donate it *back* when done.]
I know the feeling... This library buys quite a few new books but they,
properly I suppose, cater to the taste of the clientele. Several times
I've went looking for more classic titles that I know they had only to
find they were sold off to make room for more vampires.
New titles are cheaper in ebooks than paper. Amazon did a good job of
price busting; the publishers were not happy.
What I particularly enjoy is the number of obscure books that are
available in electronic format.
The ads are mostly for book titles. iirc the 'special offers' model was
$30 or so cheaper and I'm not bothered by something that goes away when
I turn the device on. epaper is like an etch-a-sketch -- the display
doesn't go off with the power.
Yes. If you delete a book from the device it still remains 'archived' in
the cloud and can be retrieved. I should do some deleting. One weakness
I've found with the model I have is the lack of an effective way to
organize the titles. Basically, the last accessed is first on the list.
Our library disposes of a LOT of titles! And, it appears to be a somewhat
arbitrary choice. E.g., I'm friendly with the head librarian at one
of the branches. One day, while chatting with her as she "checked in"
titles, I saw her separating the books into two piles.
I questioned her as to why the distinction: "Oh, those haven't seen
much recent readership so they'll go in the discards pile..."
WTF? But, someone just read it! Else you wouldn't be checking it
back in! And, there's lots of empty space on the shelves (in this
Yet, they want another bond issue to buy MORE books, etc.
I'm not keen on yet another agency/entity tracking my "interests".
The local library opted NOT to comply with the request to track
borrowing patterns (though you know something can surreptitiously be
doing that). Recently, the outsourced their handling of the catalog,
reservations, etc. to a canadian firm. No mention of any privacy
So, I responded by severely reducing my patronage. And, voting AGAINST
the recent bond issue (which failed by a 3:2 margin). I guess other folks
are unhappy with their policies as well!
of distributed mirrored volumes. This lets me impose any sort of structure
to it that seems appropriate.
E.g., I can sort music based on artist, books based on genre, etc.
"Where" a title resides (in the filesystem hierarchy) tells me
what *I* want to know about it. (It's easier to manipulate
a filesystem structure than it is to manipulate *tags* inside
I'm not keen on relying on something else to "store" *my* stuff.
And, having to maintain a connection to that other entity just
to access *my* stuff! Nothing to stop them from charging an "access
fee" or "maintenance fee", etc.
On 1/14/2016 10:35 AM, Don Y wrote:
<SNIP> > I'm not keen on yet another agency/entity tracking my "interests". <SNIP> <http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304870304577490950051438304
Your E-Book Is Reading You
There are ways to avoid the spying.
You can never avoid the fact that you downloaded the book.
Nor can you control what any *app* reports back to "Mother".
One advantage of print libraries is you can take a book off a shelf,
walk to a comfortable chair in a corner and *read* it -- without
any record of this activity (including your *visit*!)
We're extremely wary of letting technology into our home *if*
it has a way of talking to the outside world -- by any means
(i.e., no Windows 10, here!).
If I want to listen to a song 300 times, it's none of your
business. I may *love* it. Or, may simply be out of the room
and the player is on endless "repeat".
Big Data can't tell anything from that one event. But, if they
can compile results from, say, 100M people and correlate that
with some *other* observations, they can draw some pretty
astute conclusions -- without understanding *why* there is a
[Insert story of teen's dad outraged that Target was sending his
daughter coupons for discounts on baby products: "Maybe you
should ask your DAUGHTER if there's something she's not
telling you before you get irate!" :> ]
In the 21st century, *people* will be the products that are marketed
to *vendors*. Expect your TV to tattle on your viewing preferences,
which commercials you sit through/channel surf/take bathroom breaks.
Expect your refrigerator to notice what you're eating -- and what
times of day!
[*I* can tell you when you pee/crap/shower/sleep/eat/recreate/etc]
I volunteered at the library in Dover, NH and one of the tasks was
pruning the stock. There were two or three references books. One was
'Books in Print' and being included in BIP was good. I can't remember
the titles of the other two references but one was essentially 'Books
Every Library Should Have' and the other was similar. Being in those
guaranteed the book was retained. Miss all three and it was a goner.
I thought the BIP criterion was counter intuitive. The out of print
books are those that should be preserved. I scored a complete set of
John Burroughs, a late 19th century naturalist from NY. They hadn't been
checked out in some time and weren't in any of the references.
The MPL doesn't have much shelf space. Part of the reason is devoting a
good deal of floor space to audiovisual materials. Again, that's what is
popular along with books with unicorns on the cover. Celine, Hamsun,
Hemingway, hit the road.
The library supposedly only has records of holds and that you have a
particular book checked out. Bring it back and the record is gone. Or so
they say. I sometimes miss the cards in the pockets where they'd put
your name. Not secure at all but at least I could see at a glance if I'd
read a book. I tend to run through authors I enjoy and can't always
remember the titles I've read. Worse, sometimes I can get 50 pages into
the text before I get the deja vu feeling.
It's nowhere near as "consistent"/predictable, here. It's as if
the staff have an incentive to get rid of titles -- generate "need"!
SWMBO's art book library was largely acquired from discards. Many of the
titles are currently selling for high prices on Amazon, ABE, etc.
(lots of "color plates" make them expensive to produce)
Branch libraries tend to be ~10,000 sq ft. Some closer to 5, others around
20. But, the trend seems to be "lots of open space" (instead of lots
of closely packed stacks).
Things like DVD's and CD's are treated much like books -- but not too much
"on the shelves". E.g., the branch at which I pick up my reserves probably
has 2 or 3% of the stacks devoted to audio/video media. Lots of "behind
the scenes" space for "processing". Plus, conference rooms that are
available for public use. Plus a large (~2000 sq ft) "function room"
that can be reserved for certain functions. And, a slew of PC's
Any "technical" material is limited to Windows XXX (whatever is current)
how-to's. I suspect even math and science books are pretty lame/generic.
OTOH, the University is nearby and, aside from the hassles of PARKING,
accessible (though to checkout books you need to buy a $35/annual
card -- as a "non student")
With a third party performing these functions, there are no guarantees
as to *what* they keep. Nor what criteria apply to its disclosure.
As can anyone else who takes the book! :>
My favorite author is A E van Vogt. Many of his stories are surprisingly
similar. Others are "reissues" under different names, etc. So, I may be
considerably invested in a story with a nagging feeling that I've read
it before -- and, it can go either way: it could be a story I've read
under a different title; *or*, can be a different story with similar
characters, setting, etc.
But, as long as I "enjoy the ride", who cares?
The only branch library I've dealt with was at Ajo. It's a branch of the
Tucson library even though the mothership is 110 miles away. There was a
librarian, Lily Salazar, who had very long arms. There wasn't much I
asked for that she couldn't produce through ILL, even if it had to
trickle in from Texas on pony Express. She died, all too young, and it
hasn't been the same since.
From what I've gathered, the trick is to make sure it can be located
via WorldCat. Then, hope they have ILL privileges with one (or more)
of the institutions holding copies.
I've been told an ILL is ~$70. Not sure if those are direct *fees*
that the library absorbs (payable to the lender?) *or* if that's
what some bean-counter figured the cost of staff+resources divided
by number of ILLs worked out to... In either case, I figure this is
a resource that my tax dollars fund, so why not exploit it?
Presently looking for two documents that aren't present in WorldCat.
Had to track down author -- in Sweden. Now, spending a LOT of time
trying to prune my request down to the barest essentials -- but no
smaller (paraphrasing AEinstein). Author is ~70-ish and articles
are ~40 years old. So, this is going to be a real stretch! Don't
want to ask too much and get NOTHING ("too much effort to answer");
but, also don't want to omit some key question that I might never
get a SECOND chance to ask!
You want a tablet with a fairly high-resolution screen for an e-book
I've been using a 1280 x 800 8" tablet and it's adequate for e-books
(189 PPI) but I'd prefer a 300 ppi or greater. It was $160. LG Gpad 8.0
II. I like the fact that it has a full size USB and a Micro USB port.
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