On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:35:52 PM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
evacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.
If it IS pump, (a) is it an expensive repair (b) is it worth it (c) if not
fixed, will it get worse
Whirlpool DW is less than 2 years old. Was only about $600+ including inst
allation. Went to complain, but company out of business.
Now realizing that it is a relative plastic POS compared with my old KA.
I am so clueless that I stopped using the KA when it wouldn't let hot water
in, thinking repairs would be too expen$ive. I handwashed for 2 years -
- didn't kill me <g> -- and only had it replaced thinking new person in hom
e needed it. Turns out it KA problem was just a ****ing HOSE which had bee
n bitten by MOUSE! Would have been inexpensive and I'd still have my great
I will beat myself up till the end of time for not thinking things through;
making unwarranted assumptions.
Right now I'm asking NG whether drain should be a gusher or just a stream.
May give clue as to "weakness"?? of pump.
Tx for your input
On Tuesday, August 12, 2014 6:19:35 PM UTC-4, Higgs Boson wrote:
cycles, and over the special cycle? Maybe the timer is not runniing the pu
mp long enough. Take the strainer out of the sink and see how long water i
s flowing vs how long you hear the pump running. Is the time different for
when it drains completely and wwhen it does not drain completely?
pens at the unit and the water going into the disposal when it's pumping ou
t. Strong stream that stops when the pump does?
ell if stream was "strong"? Kept flowing was all I could see.
another drain cycle did it. Worried that this might get worse. Wasn't li
ke that before -- or -- (awful thought!) was it, and I didn't notice?? Poss
stream". How identify "strong" ? Really gushes rather then flows? I have
no base because I never looked in the past.
r, flow stops when pump stops. Sometimes I have had to do it 2x.
vacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.
It would seem extremely unlikely for a 2 year old unit to have a "weak"
pump. The only way I can see a pump becoming weak would be for
some of the impeller blades breaking off, deteriorating away, etc. I've
never seen that happen. A clogged drain hose, or passageway leading to
or from the pump are the likely candidates.
And if you cannot find the problem yourself it may be time to call a
pro. Most will charge $80 to $100. If the machine works OK otherwise,
it may be worth the investment. If it was 12 years old, I'd consider a
On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:58:23 AM UTC-7, trader_4 wrote:
r cycles, and over the special cycle? Maybe the timer is not runniing the
pump long enough. Take the strainer out of the sink and see how long water
is flowing vs how long you hear the pump running. Is the time different f
or when it drains completely and wwhen it does not drain completely?
appens at the unit and the water going into the disposal when it's pumping
out. Strong stream that stops when the pump does?
tell if stream was "strong"? Kept flowing was all I could see.
t; another drain cycle did it. Worried that this might get worse. Wasn't
like that before -- or -- (awful thought!) was it, and I didn't notice?? Po
ng stream". How identify "strong" ? Really gushes rather then flows? I ha
ve no base because I never looked in the past.
ier, flow stops when pump stops. Sometimes I have had to do it 2x.
evacuated but takes a few cancel/drains.
Thanks bot' a yiz guys.
Maybe I should stop ****ing around and call the damn appliance repair perso
Money is so tight right now-- multiple car repair$ and house dittos -- that
I was hoping I could go with the flow (baaaad pun) for a while.
BIG QUESTION -- dust off your crystal balls (snicker)-- is whether continui
ng to run 2 cycles WILL LEAD TO MORE PROBLEMS.
On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:43:49 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
None. They sell them, they don't build them.
Two possible causes.
1. If the water is not draining between cycles you have dirty leftover
water to start the next cycle. You won't get clean dishes.
2. Many detergents went to crap when the phosphate was re moved.
There have been threads here about it and where to buy phosphate to
add yourself. Another solution is a better detergent.
Cascade Gel changed to crap
Cascade complete is better
Cascade Platinum tablets are fantastic. Dishes sparkle like new. I
also have a new KA top of the line DW too so that can make a
On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 7:03:27 PM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
Especially when it's not known what's wrong. Could be a plugged up
That's my vote.
From the description it sounds like the first place to look would be
a clogged drain hose between the DW and the disposal. Could also be
clogged at the pump inlet. On my Kitchenaid, you can easily remove
the lower arm, then the screen underneath and get to the pump intake.
If it were mine, that's where I'd start, because it's easier than
checking out the hose. On mine, you can turn the arm backwards while
lifting up and it comes right off. But how the OP's comes apart, IDK.
You can pull up parts diagrams at the online appliance parts stores that
show how it's put together. That is often enough to figure out how
it comes apart.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
According to my (crystal) balls, I don't see it leading to problems,
just wearing out a bit faster from use. If you have the time to keep
an eye on the cycle, I'd put it through a normal wash and first rinse,
cancel, then start it over with minimal detergent to be sure it rinses
well. May take a bit of experimenting.
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