On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 11:19:03 AM UTC-5, email@example.com wrote:
It starts with the money, but there is more involved. There is also bragging
rights for the architect, the contracting firm, the city, the company, etc.
Take a look at the video on this page, which details the trick used make
the Chrysler building the tallest structure in the world (as they say, "for now"). It was all about the competition between 2 former partners to build
the tallest building.
In some cases, being the tallest, the best, the prettiest, etc. can
command higher rents just because of the prestige. "Oh, that firm has
offices in the tallest building in the world? They must be good at what
they do." Impressions mean a lot in the business world.
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Check this out. 35 year time lapse of high rise buildings going up in Shinjuku Japan.
Next time you post a link to a video of high rise buildings
going up in Shinjuku Japan, make sure it IS a video of
high rise buildings going up in Shinjuku JAPAN...
And in the mean time, apply for work at Fox News.
They're in the business of misleading people, so
you'd be in good company.
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 11:48:54 -0800, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"
It's probably a phallic thing..... :)
Or, is it the stairway to heaven mentality?
I'm not very comfortble with heights anyhow. I'll go on a 35' roof as
long as I can walk on it, but you wont get me up on a ladder over 20'.
Going in a 5 story department store never bothered me, but 63 stories,
NO FU**ING WAY !!!
One problem with building higher is that the ground-level footprint
of the required number of elevators becomes prohibitive (consider the
space required for the shaft itself, plus the vestibule/waiting
areas. Note that elevators are height-limited[*], so you'll need to
devote almost entire floors in the middle to elevator lobbies feeding
the upper floors.
[*] Roughly 500m with traditional steel rope.
Note also that the rope weight increases exponentially with height.
"In very tall buildings, almost 70% of the elevator's weight is
attributed to the cable itself, and when the rope gets too long
it cannot support its own weight"
"Consequently, long cables cause damage to the shaft and to themselves.
For example, in the former World Trade Center Twin Towers, the elevators'
cables swung back and forth in the building, and over the decades, their
movements resulted in wearing deep holes in the shaft walls"
New designs include double-deck elevators to reduce the require floor
A good discussion of elevators and skyscrapers is here:
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 18:16:54 GMT, firstname.lastname@example.org (Scott Lurndal)
This is interesting. I never even thought of the weight of the cables,
cables slapping against walls, and that sort of thing....
You'd think they could build elevtors in a different manner, such as
using shafts with gear teeth on them, or some sort of hydraulics. But
I'm sure all of these things have been considered and/or tried.
I'll stick to dealing with houses that are no taller than 2 stories, and
a flight of stairs is all that's needed....
On 1/5/16 11:15 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Land costs in Manhattan are running almost $800 per square foot. San
Fran isn't far behind. When you are starting out with that, adding in
site preparation, etc., it is much less hard to imagine how it is much
more cost effective.
On 1/3/2016 5:36 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Someone posted a link to story. Looks like
the fire was external. Real shame. But some
what predictable when sheathing is combustible.
Some of the survivors report that was a lot
frightening. I can believe that. Easily believe.
On Monday, January 4, 2016 at 7:31:10 AM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
I was in a hotel in Toronto, staying on the 11th
floor. At around 1:00 AM the fire alarm went off
and we had to evacuate. It turned out that the
fire was below us, on the 7th floor.
As we were walking down the stairs, the smell
of the smoke was getting stronger and stronger.
I was nervous, but not overly so, until the
At first the progress down the stairs was steady
and at a reasonable pace. Then the fireman arrived
and began to come up the stairs with all of their
equipment on. That forced all of the hotel guests
to one side of the stairs and resulted in a stop
and go pace. You could feel the nervousness
growing in the crowd as we were standing on the
stairs, not moving, with smell of the smoke getting
stronger. I can only imagine how it must feel when
there are actually flames, especially "Towering
Inferno" type flames.
In the end, we all made it out with no real problems.
The fire was minor and put out quickly.
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