Always gotta have a Plan B, Jim. I have satt, but got converter boxes
anyway. Sometimes the satt gets an attack of the vapors for several
hours at a time, and the local package Dish offers around here does not
include all the OTA stations, or (as far as I can tell, at least for
non-HD subscribers) any of the sub-channels. If I don't get more digital
stations after the cutover, I'm gonna have to go topside, and fix or
replace the half-ass antenna that came with this house. I really need a
rotor to nail the other set of locals that cover this area anyway. So
far, I've managed to stay south of 50 bucks a month with dish, but if
they jack their prices again, I may learn to do without those nice
channels (History, Discovery, SciFi, etc) that got me to get a dish in
the first place. (200-some channels, and only 12 I ever watch...)
Down at my father's place in lake Charles, Louisiana, Dish doesn't even
OFFER the local stations. I think they offer Houston, about 4 hours
away. He was very happy with the signal I pulled with the converters I
installed for him, using a cable from the FM antenna on the roof. Much
better than the analog from rabbit ears that he was watching for the
morning news. It did take a couple hours to teach him all the buttons to
use on the various remotes, since I had to plumb the 2 TVs differently,
due to the input jacks available. One on aux, the other on rf4, etc. I
wish Dish offered pass-through jacks on their boxes for DVD players,
VCRs, converters, and such. It would be easy to engineer in, and then
one remote could do it all. (Yes, I have tried pushing all that through
a daisy chain on the 'antenna in'. It does not work worth a hoot. Major
signal loss and crappy picture. I use an ABCD switch box here, and get a
perfect picture, but you gotta get up and press the button.)
Until you have checked with the station. Some of the TVs in Indy are
having their chief engineer blog about the changeover. A couple have
said they are already at full-power (usually those with their weather or
news channel running on one of the sidebands).
I personally called WTAE TV pittsburgh and was told the power now is
permanent and will not be increasing. Plus they moved their digital
transmitter site away from pittsburgh, on the other side of town.
They futher stated if you dont like it call congress
If you do, your local congres-critter is where to start, of course.
And, I think FCC still cares about interference reports if provided
them; it's obviously silly to expect them to find it on their own, of
If there were a wildcat source or somesuch that's the problem, one would
not expect you're the only person affected--if so, getting together all
those who are will be important to getting anything accomplished. If,
otoh, it's only you, that would be indicative of geography or
outbuildings or so that might require relocating antenna or some other
individual solution. In the end, of course, there are undoubtedly going
to be individuals who are left high 'n dry just as there will be those
who will get increased access. It will all depend on specifics of every
individual situation as to the actual end result.
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:12:50 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
I had heard that they were lower (though I hadn't heard far lower) but
I checked out 2 of the 4 stations that I watch on analog and it's not
true for them and certainly not always true.
One night I emailed channel 9 and one other major network station in
DC and both wrote back by 9:30 the next morning to say that they were
at full digital power already.
One did say that they would change frequencies on that date and
implied that might help my reception.
(What I really need is to repair or replace my amplified antenna in
the attic, but that's unrelated to the topic here. Oh, and 2 other
stations in DC didn't have email addresses or forms! So I didn't
What are you talking about?
"The Senate bill allows stations to make the switch before June if they get
approval from the Federal Communications Commission. Public safety organizations
in those markets would get immediate access to the old TV airwaves."
The law as passed the Senate gave stations the opportunity to close
down analog if they wanted to. Also for those getting ready to use the
freqencies to use them as soon as they were vacated. Congress is relying
on the Bcasters not wanting to piss off their viewers to bail the
Looks like the hooha over passports to the Carribean fiasco. Put a
deadline way in advance, publicize the heck out of it, have most get
ready but a few screw around, listen to those few scream about how they
can't get ready, put it off. It'll be interesting to see if (as in the
passport case) if the idiots screw around again and get it pushed back
I remember some recent reasoning as for time of year and economics being
a reason to grant a delay.
But if the delay gets to close to a year then it's screwing around.
I think that a reasonable final deadline would be close to Memorial Day
Weekend and shortly ahead of summer vacations. People being spared by a
deadline extension and unable to handle DTV conversion by then due to
full-steam-ahead-with-vacation-plans are screwing around.
In this new age of cutting back driving, I think that latecomers to DTV
conversion spared by a deadline extension should make DTV conversion their
activity for the 2009 Memorial Day Weekend.
Maybe a nice deadline could be first Wednesday after July 4th. Anyone
who hasn't adapted to DTV yet and who does not make use of the next few
months and the Memorial Day and July-4th weekend times and their
associated sales to accomplish adaptation to DTV by then appears to me
to deserve to be "screwed".
"You need me to get you hooked up for DTV 4 months after a deadline
extension after most of a year of advertizing blitz?
If ya need it within 2-3 maybe 4 days, ya only get lube for the
'screwing' if I like to use it! Otherwise it's a week or 2-plus!"
I would favor Federal legislation dictating that no gubmint-subsidized
coupons for DTV converters be good after the Tuesday before Labor Day
2009, and for those coupons (among any good that late) to lose half their
value a week or two before. I would favor final blackout deadline for
analog broadcast TV transmissions in USA to be at least 6 weeks before
that time (maybe second Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday of July 2009).
Fellow Americans who can't get up to speed before late next summer are a
disgrace and embarassment in the nation most using GPS devices and radar
detectors! Maybe disgrace-squared!
Myself - I managed to adapt to DTV in the summer of 2008. I knew for
several months already by then that the change was a'comin'!!!
- Don Klipstein ( firstname.lastname@example.org)
Coupons expire? Dam those tv commercials didnt tell me, we need alot
more of them to help us know this stuff. We need to be informed, maybe
they should get Billy Mays to do infomercials on the conversion.
You named someone that some, likely many, people would like to ignore
and get away from as quickly as possible.
Not too many days ago, a thread started in sci.electronics.design
started for a filter to "quench"/"quelch"/"squelch" (my words as opposed
to ones used in that thread) or otherwise detect and block presence of
that particular personality in "commercials"!
I don't even know who he is - maybe due to being low on watching TV!
But I have been gaining an impression that if that particular
personality comes on in an ad or an "infomercial", then I give good chance
that I will be quick to change the channel or turn the darned "boob tube"
- Don Klipstein ( email@example.com)
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