I just had a handyman-type person wire and install some very basic lights in
the basement of my home. The lights fixtures are just the very basic round
white plastic ones where a light bulb screws in. What he did was screw the
white plastic fixtures directly onto the ceiling joists with no junction
boxes or mounting boxes. The wires run along the joists and under the white
plastic fixture to the contacts.
I assume that's wrong and doesn't meet electrical codes. Am I right about
And, yes, I know I should have a licensed electrician, etc., etc.
I didn't say anything was right (with the wires connected wrong at the
source), just that what SEEMS to be right (at the light fixture) is
However, I did once see a piece of Romex connected wrong at both ends.
That person claimed that it didn't matter. That it's AC. He also put
the switch in the neutral wire. Actually, I'm not sure anymore if it
was the neutral wire or the white one. Also, that was #14 wire,
because #14 would fit the backstab holes.
I have a little poster up with the message "Never underestimate the
power of stupid people in large groups.". Someone I knew once (not the
one who did the wiring) was stupid enough to assume that the stupid
people in any group would be a small minority.
Thanks to everyone. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
But here's the stupid part (on my end). It's actually an empty house that
he is working on for me. I went there today to do some work and when he
showed up I mentioned, "Don't the lights need to have junction boxes?" He
said, yes, and he had brought the junction boxes with him. He had just
screwed them to the joists temporarily so he could mostly finish the job
before leaving, then was coming back today to do the rest and brought the
junction boxes with him.
Oh, so these could have been temp feston lighting?
Just as a general rule, if your contractor ignores basic safety, not
suggesting this is the case here since no photos and not there, you
might want to second check his work. Some people 'forget' to fix temp
work later, and it becomes permenant.
tom @ www.WorkAtHomePlans.com
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