Cooling garage

[Lake]

I was being slighty rhetorical and terse! :) But since the CAP went in, the competition for the excess amount AZ wasn't using ended... we take every last drop of our allocation and pump it into groundwater aquafers if we can't use it all!

The legislature pulled the rug out from under alot of people planning on taking advantage of the deal and somewhat stopped the bleeding... Those that did take advantage are stuck with dual fuel SUVs with no resale value. The millions that did make it through, is probably still in the budget deficit being rolled over year after year...

Yep.

[Charlie Spitzer]

what are you going to do to minimize rust if you use a swamp cooler?

[Not so quick]

Thanks for the info, but where did the money go? It was hundreds of millions of dollars, no? Everyone seems to think it was just a mistake. I don't believe that for a second. Someone put a lot of money into their pockets, and no one has ever given an indication of where the money went. The people that bought the cars basically got a free car, not bad even with no resale value. The no resale values sounds like spin to me.

[Lake]

The money was paid out in the form of rebates to lots of people who took advantage of the program. The money came out of the general fund? Which is now very "under funded"... It was hardly a "free" car. A good example would be a loaded suburban retailing at 45K, cost the person about 28K after rebates. But you had to wait about a year to get your "refund" on your taxes. So you still had to fully fund your purchase for the year while waiting for your tax rebate. If you talk to someone who took advantage of the program they are hardly feeling great about the deal, because they are stuck with a giant suv with no resale value. Who in the world is going to buy a used hacked up converted 3 year old suburban,.. when there are 3 dozen unalterted primo one's for sale? I wouldn't touch a Alt fuels car with a ten foot pole. (unless it was a new one from the manufacturer with all the warrenties, etc...)

[Not so quick]

They had to have the equipment installed on their cars, right? Who collected the money for the installations and hardware?

[Lake]

Bunch of Jeff Groscots buddies, who owned the conversion business!... So you are correct, if you are taking the dirty deeds angle!!!!

[Not so quick]

When you realize that children are going to die and suffer abuse because money that should have gone to child protective services and God knows how many other services that could save lives, it seems to me that stealing that money is voluntary manslaughter.