On Sat 17 Oct 2009 02:46:05p, Nate Nagel told us...
When I was growing up in the 1950s-1960s, we had both types of the pole
lamps, the spring-tensioned style and the style with a base. We never had
a pull down ceiling light, but I remember them well. There are
contemporary versions still made, but the styling has been updated.
We also had a "TV lamp" that sat on top of the television and reflected
light upward and backward. Back then it was considered bad for the eyes to
view a televisioin in a totally darkened room, and ambient light somewhere
around the TV was considered ideal.
~~ If there\'s a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~
Chuckle. There was a recent thread, forget which group, bitching about a
brand of wall-mount flat TV that had lighting like that built into the
edge of the 'picture frame' on the set, with a photo cell to measure the
room light. As room got dark, it would switch itself on.
Don't know if it is actually bad for the eyes or not, but it does
probably reduce bumped shins when you get up to run to the can during
commercials. I usually just leave the light at the far end of the
kitchen turned on.
And the light makes it harder to accidentally step on a cat. They're
something like the other things you can bump into, but are mobile and
can be found in unexpected places.
I keep a string of green LED holiday lights on all the time.
BTW, some of the lights (some in each series) have gone out over time,
but others are still lit. That's strange.
It the LEDs are in parallel on 120V, it'd take a big series resistor
and efficiency would be low.
The current consumption of this 70-LED string is about 15mA (.015A).
Since that sounds like the current for one LED, that suggests series.
BTW, I've verified that 35 work on each polarity (testing a new
Was the one your family had antique brass or copper colored? There may
have been others, but those stick in my mind. My family's 1956 house had
one of those in copper, to go with the Real Wood cherry cabinets, but
the 1966 house had a very futuristic flying saucer lamp on a
brush-nickel colored down pipe. The real dining table used 90% of the
time, a table-height peninsula in the kitchen, had focused cans above it.
That 1966 house was great, my old man's big dream for his family. Too
bad we couldn't afford it (68-70 being real bad years for custom
builders), and ended up elsewhere by 72. If I was to hit the lotto, I
believe I would knock on the door and make the current owners an offer
for it. I drive by once a year or so, when I happen to be in that town.
They have changed a few things, but they haven't mucked it up too bad,
other than a hideous front door. I wonder if my key still fits the door?
Probably best that I'll never know, I guess. Reality can never live up
In the pull down light I picture the egg,spring,cord holder as bright
brass plated with spots where the clear finish didn't hold up. The
light itself was sort of like a flying saucer metal on top and I think
frosted glass on the bottom, and I think instead of the normal screw on
part to hold the glass, it was made so you could grab it with your
finger to pull it down. The top part had a design made with little
holes in the metal that let a small amount of light out.
standard light bulb that we all know and love, "Mogul base" is the
larger than that that you hardly ever see anymore.
I know the Edison base as a "medium base". (No slight meant to
Edison) And you still see Mogal base on Mercury vapor exterior
I could easily be wrong about the 200 300 watt bases. I'm going from
memory from ~1979 and I have a hard time remembering today! I was
probably just stunned at the size of the bulb itself. I'm sure it was
at least 10" from base to top. Or maybe the wattage was higher than I
For lamps bright enough for general illumination, such as 40 watt
incandescent equivalent, I am finding most LED ones to be low on light
output and to often have an icy cold color.
This will improve over the next several years.
- Don Klipstein ( firstname.lastname@example.org)
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:55:19 +0000 (UTC), email@example.com (Don
Or possibly, not. Apparently there's a problem called "droop" when
they try to increase the intensity of LEDs - efficiency drops - and
it's already not quite as good as CFLs on the newer 1 watt and larger
LEDs. Color ... maybe. Price ... maybe a little. But it seems the
technology is currently stuck.
I just got a couple of the 23 watt and 40 watt candelabra base CFLs,
put in one 40 watt - and it was almost too bright, compared to the
incandescent it replaced. That's in a fixture. Haven't put them yet
into the chandelier, we'll see how that goes esthetically.
Fortunately we already removed the dimmer!
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