Cigarette Smoke Detector

Sep 08, 2005 27 Replies

In that case, you are probably better off finding a property that is easier to maintain, something without stuccoed ceilings, real wood finishes, and so forth.

A 'classic' home or building, one where, if restored and/or kept in it's original condition, would be worth far more than the equivalent remodeled or newer one, is probably not a good investment for rental property. The sad fact is, few people treat someone else's property as well as they treat something they're own. (Google Superdome Katrina)

Even if it were possible to completely eliminate the smoking of tobacco and other herbs, there's incense, candles, dust, cooking, and even ionizer air cleaners and fans, which can stain a wall, floor or ceiling worse than anything. While the paint stick compared to the ceiling trick sounds good, you would have a tough time proving that the difference wasn't due to normal wear and tear. Nobody expects the paint, or any surface, to be perfect and untouched by a renter, even if it's on the ceiling, for the reasons I just mentioned. In most states, if not all, I don't believe you can even deduct painting from the tenant's security deposit. Same goes with carpet cleaning or replacement. Of course, if it's only been a few weeks, and the place is a wreck, then you may be able to deduct these things, perhaps, but if it's been several months or more, forget it.

For rental property, it's best to find something where just about any damage short of an thermonuclear blast can be fixed with some patching compound and paint, and any cleaning can be done with a quick swipe of 409. Anything with fancy ceilings, wainscoting, or other pretty perks is going to be costly and heartbreaking to keep up.

As for my first response to your post, I apologize for my rudeness. I was unaware you were dealing with an older building, which would certainly be better off with non-smokers. Some folks here in CA are getting a bit extreme with the no smoking issue, and it tends to make folks like me a bit punchy.

Pagan

[SNIP GOOD WARNING TO POTENTIAL LANDLORDS]

Yes, thank you for the head's up. After researching ad nauseum the subject of jurisdiction over cigarette smoke--and also coincidentally (?) rewatching Pacific Heights over the weekend (about a renter from Hell), I decided never to invest in anything for the purposes of income. Whether or not my buddy opts for the same Carleton Sheets-free lifestyle, I don't know.

You directly and indirectly answered a question I've always had about why rental apartments are almost always filthy. I don't mean dirty, dusty, messy--I mean downright eye-watering filthy. The accumulation of tenants and their indifference over the years, in addition to the fact that *caring* about it will drive a landlord nuts, creates D-I-R-T that can't be gotten rid of short of gutting a building, and what sane person over the age of 30 wants to do that for a few bucks a month?

I'd give you the right to stay home.

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Yes there are such things........ Trying to find the price on them and some reviews ..... now that is a bit more problematic.

So far I have found this site that has no prices.... thinking it might be expensive, but the beauty of it is that you can have it send you a text message. I do not know if any laws would prevent this type of thing....... given that it is legal (in my state) to have a lease that says no smoking..... I would guess it is, but because I would figure it was only effective if the tenant didn't know about it, I am not sure that part is legal. :(

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I also found this one..... but it is from the UK and because it uses the Lithium battery they cant ship it to the US.... (You could contact them to see if they can ship without the battery and if there is one in the US that can be used instead.)

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tobacco smoke is a scurge on our world. adults shouldnt be allowed to smok e around children, since its really CHILD ABUSE. and should be proscuted. I grew up in a smoking home, it was horrible. I was always sick with ear in fections colds etc. even children around a smoking parent who only smokes o utside can gets ill from the stentch on their clothes

To mitigate odors, including urine stentch, tobacco stentch. whatever the s tink..... heres how to solve it. you cant clean it off to get rid of odors, since they are absorbed into walls, floors etc.

first scrub everything down with real TSP cleaner, then rinse 3 times with fresh water so the tsp doesnt interer with sealer adhesion, then paint all walls etc with the oil bassed kilz, give it 2 coats, leave a day or two be tween to allow it to dry. toss everything like carpeting. with wood floors sand and refinish, with OIL BASED POLYURETHANE. if you use water based poly everytime the weather is moist the smell will reappear. have all ductwork cleaned and deodorized, and the furnace and AC coil. every surface must be sealed with something..you should probably replace all vinyl floors to be s afe..

Its impossible to clean off, the best you can do is seal in the odor

now landlords dont like this because not only does it cost a fortune to do it right, but it takes TIME. so a home might be unavailable for rental for at least a extra month, while all this time consuming work is done:(

FIRE RESTORATION companies do this after home fires, it cost megabucks.

I was a landlord for awhile and put in the lease it was non smoking. fortun ately the tenant and their family didnt like smoke stink so it was never a issue

In the OPs case it might be best to rip down fancy cielings and replace wit h drywall if the cieling gets stinky

replying to Pagan, Phat cat wrote: The fact is that in some states it's actually illegal to smoke in your own house if it connects to onothers home by one wall. Apoartmens aren't even owned so it's even stricter.

Fear not, the state knows what's best for us...

"Cigarette smoking is allowed on the second and fourth Tuesdays of every week."

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