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Ceiling Medalion

Sweets I don't know using your NNTP reader:

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Reply to
Oren
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Just scroll down to the bottom, then type there.

Topposting is a recurring problem. The convention for Usenet has always been to post at the bottom of the message. This is so the thousands of other readers, who don't come in until late in the discussion, can still figure out how the conversation went. (You do know that you're broadcasting in the clear, don't you?)

When e-mail systems became more widespread, they defaulted to adding your reply at the top. That doesn't really matter when there are only two people who will ever see the messages, but it convinced lots of new Usenet users that Usenet should be like e-mail. They get very nasty about it sometimes. I blame Microsoft--everything else is their fault, right? ;-)

If some people type at the top, and other people type at the bottom, third parties will never be able to figure out who said what in what order. You can try to read the old messages, but my frequent experience is that the oldest message still on the server is the one that's messed up.

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SteveBell

Reply to
Kate

Thanks for the great explanation. I hope it works this time.

Reply to
Kate

You're doing great. Good luck with your medallion.

By the way, you fixed it the same way I would have done it. If it's sitting still, the caulk will work just fine. The caulk _will_ shrink over time, but that's _years_ in the future. Just fix it with a little more caulk, unless the old stuff is falling out.

Reply to
SteveBell

OK, I always love to learn new things. Thanks everyone for all of your help on my medallion, and how to reply properly in newsgroups.

Hopefully,I won't be bothering you any time soon.

Reply to
Kate

After you hit the reply button, just put your cursor where you want to begin typing...hit "enter" a couple of times for line space and you are ready to go...

Top or bottom isn't that tough .. just look at what Kate said, then look at who she is replying to..........does it really matter?

Moving one finger over a mouse wheel is exhausting. Whew!

Reply to
norminn

Caulk is great for hanging stuff on the wall that you don't plan to remove....children's art stuff, like their first school ceramics project (my most valuable possessions :o)

If the medallion is foam, it will probably stick forever. May have to tear up the ceiling and the medallion if you want to remove it, but, then, it will be a good excuse to redecorate :o)

Reply to
norminn

*I'm not sure what you mean by thin screw. You would want something with a big enough head on it so that it doesn't slip through the surface plastic. The inside is foam so there is not much holding power there. The drywall screws work well because the head is perfect for applying some pressure without penetrating the surface plastic and the threads grab the drywall well enough to pull the medallion tight. It is very important to not overtighten the screws. If you overdo it the threads will not hold well in the drywall and you don't want the screw head to penetrate beyond the surface of the medallion. I always screw near the ornate part of the medallion so the screw head will blend in after it is coated with a little dap of caulk.
Reply to
John Grabowski

It is definitely stuck in place. A friend is planning on drilling in a few very tiny screws just to be safe. We get very hot weather here, and we are concerned it may deteriorate over time. I suppose I am going overboard here, but just want to thank everyone for their help.

It is made of plastic which is a joke as it cost me $26 for a 16" piece. But, it did the job, so no complaints.

I am definitely pleased with the results.

Many thanks.

Reply to
Kate

This medallion is made of plastic, with no insulation at all. You bring up a very good point. But, now I am concerned that the screw may crack the medallion as it is hollow inside. We plan to pre-drill. I will get drywall screws. Thanks for all of your help.

Reply to
Kate

Reply to
Kate

On 3/3/2009 11:17 AM Kate spake thus:

First of all, you're *waaaaay* over-thinking this. It's a lousy plastic medallion, for chrissakes. OK, not "lousy" in the sense that it improves the decor in your room, but we're not talking about a piece of cast brass here. It's lightweight plastic.

Forget screws! All they'll do is dimple, crack or otherwise deform the poor thing. Don't know why anyone even suggested them (they may have been thinking that this was a heavyweight piece of plaster, wood, etc.).

The caulk will hold just fine. Think about it: there's practically no weight there, so no need to be concerned about the gap opening. And the gap is no doubt due to an uneven ceiling as you surmised, which is not uncommon.

By the way, another suggestion for replying to messages here and elsewhere: in addition to bottom-posting, which you've learned to do nicely (thanks!), it's also good practice to *trim your posts*. No need to include every single word that was written since the thread started. Just include the stuff relevant to what you're replying to, as I did here.

Good luck.

Reply to
David Nebenzahl

*Kate I never saw a hollow medallion so I cannot give you the benefit of my personal experience. It is possible that screwing it may indeed have a detrimental effect. With the foam filled models the screws bring it up closer to the ceiling all around to minimize the gap. Some manufacturers have even enclosed drywall screws with their medallions. If you are satisfied with the results by just caulking then I would leave it alone. Wait and see what effect age and heat may have on it if any. You could try and contact the manufacturer for their advice.
Reply to
John Grabowski

It depends on what the medalion is made. I think you can get them made of plaster, foam, rubber, plastic. I had a freind that got rich plaster doing restorations. One of his specialties was plaster medalions.

Jimmie

Reply to
JIMMIE

Hope I trimmed this correctly.

Reply to
Kate
*Kate I never saw a hollow medallion so I cannot give you the benefit of my personal experience. It is possible that screwing it may indeed have a detrimental effect. With the foam filled models the screws bring it up closer to the ceiling all around to minimize the gap. Some manufacturers have even enclosed drywall screws with their medallions. If you are satisfied with the results by just caulking then I would leave it alone. Wait and see what effect age and heat may have on it if any. You could try and contact the manufacturer for their advice.

I am leaving it as is. It looks good. Many, many thanks.

Reply to
Kate

On 3/3/2009 4:28 PM Kate spake thus:

Well, sorta, sorta not.

Notice that your answer ("It is a done deal", etc.) came out as part of

*my" quoted text; you apparently started typing immediately after my reply that you were responding to, so your reply got mixed up with what you were replying to (does that make sense?)

Best thing is to make sure you have at least one blank line between the text you're replying to and your reply. That way the poor little newsreader (your Thunderbird program) won't get all confused.

Reply to
David Nebenzahl

Best thing is to make sure you have at least one blank line between the > text you're replying to and your reply. That way the poor little > newsreader (your Thunderbird program) won't get all confused.

OK, see if this works. Do I need to cut and paste, or is this OK?

David Nebenzahl wrote:

Reply to
Kate

On 3/3/2009 5:29 PM Kate spake thus:

Why is this so difficult? And why would you need to cut and paste? (Yes, your reply was OK.)

Alright, let's see if your news client (Thunderbird) is set up right. Since you want to bottom-post, there's a setting to make that easier. In the Tools menu, select "Account Settings...". The Account Settings dialog will open.

Go to the "Composition & Addressing" item under the account name on the left. In this dialog, the second item is a checkmark item, "Automatically quote the original message when replying". This is probably already checked, but make sure it is.

Right below it is the control that selects between top-posting, after the word "Then,". Select "start me reply below the quote".

Now, when you reply to a message, your cursor will automatically be positioned after the quoted text; all you need to do is start typing. (Well, that and any judicious trimming you may want to do to the quoted text.)

You can also reply *between* paragraphs of quoted text, like:

Then I told her ...

So I went over and ...

You get the idea. Just make sure that your replies are clear of the quoted text so they don't become part of the quote (anything after one or more ">" is quoted text; the number of ">" indicates the nesting level, or how many replies back the quote was from the current posting).

Does that help?

Reply to
David Nebenzahl

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