And as cheap as a :good: set of long jumpers.
A 25 foot set of 1/0 cable is $250 just for the cable at $5 per foot,
and then you need good ends too.
A good set of Goodall 500 amp clams is about $75, so $325 for a set of
500 amp 25 foot cables.
I've used the roadside service option a few times, and it's well worth
the yearly $30.00 for the service. I have to pay up front for whatever
I need, [tow, jump battery, etc] but get it back in mail. Most
insurance outfits offer this service.
On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 19:41:12 -0500, email@example.com wrote:
I always used thick cables to start carbureted cars - back in the day.
But letting thinner cables charge the dead battery for 5-10 minutes
works fine with fuel injection, assuming the car doesn't have other
The mistake many people make is not having a good connection on the
side mount battery terminals.
You have to make sure the alternator on the charging car has a load on
it. Until you hear that you're not connected. Not always easy to
hear if there's a lot of traffic around.
My cables are hanging in the garage, a 25' foot set of heavy and a 20'
set of medium. Haven't used them at least 10 years.
Keep ours in the trunks of the cars. The first time the car
doesn't start, you check the date stamped on top of the battery.
If more than 3 years (regardless of the grade of battery), you
pull the battery and get it replaced. Batteries simply don't
last in the heat, here.
[And, if you buy a battery that covers the first 36 months
"in full" -- prorating after that -- you usually don't pay
for the replacement... or the replacement for the replacement...
or the replacement for the replacement for the replacement... :> ]
First battery I bought, here, was like a 100 month battery.
Deader'n a doornail after ~4 years. Prorated value would still
have me shelling out $50 for another of the same.
So, since then, we've been buying $50 batteries at Costco.
Well, more accurately, we bought *one* $50 battery and have
been returning it every few years for a free replacement!
Anybody here with half a brain (and the ability to remove two
cables from a battery!) does the same sort of thing. The
heat just kills the batteries in short order.
Unfortunately, you never know if the battery is going to
give up the ghost in your garage (where the cables might be stored)
*or* somewhere away from home (where you'd have to rely on AAA,
etc.). So, I just lay the jumpers in the spare tire wheel
well "tracing" the outline of the spare. That way, I know where
to find them!
Heat also wreaks havoc on tires! Most (concrete) driveways are
covered with tire tracks -- as if someone had skidded on them (just
the rubber melting off the treads!)
[Women don't seem to understand the concept of NOT turning the
wheel unless the car is ROLLING!]
On 12/31/2015 11:40 PM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
You've obviously never dealt with Costco! :> They are very
customer friendly; drop off the battery, show proof of purchase,
go grab your replacement battery off the shelf -- and be sure
to take your *new* receipt for the NEXT return! :>
Here, batteries failing is *such* a common occurrence, that most
folks don't even bother to test the batteries.
I've had to rebuild the alternator several times on my car, in
the past (usually the bridge fails). I.e., in the past, I'd
always assume the alternator had given up the ghost taking the
battery down in the process. Amusingly, here, I've not had
to do that at all! Yet, have replaced the battery several
The problem with jumper cables in the car/truck is you have to jump
from a second battery, and have to flag down a passing car/truck to
jump from. Here in So. Cal. that isn't a good idea due to the nut cases
here. This is the reason I am posting about "battery boosting", and
having that all important second battery to jump from.
I've only once had to jump-start a car "on the road": when the
car we'd driven from Denver to Boston "died" 2 miles from the end
of the trip (alternator having given up the ghost sometime along the
way and battery finally exhausted).
Every other event has been while the car was parked -- in my
garage or at some "destination" -- just prior to setting out for
somewhere (returning home, headed off to work, etc.).
If at home, you go find a friendly neighbor. If at work, find
a workmate who's sympathetic. In a random parking lot, wait for
a passerby and hope for the best.
Likewise, every time I have had to jump someone else's vehicle,
it has been in a similar situation.
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