Drove to San Luis Obispo yesterday, where a neighbor has kids going to
school there, so she came along to visit her kids living in an off campus
When I came to pick her up, the kids asked me to fix something.
I asked where the screwdrivers were.
They don't own any.
I knocked on the door across the hall.
They don't own any either.
I used a butterknife.
Amazed me though.
They all had iPhones but nobody had a screwdriver.
Are there really people who don't own any typical hand tools?
How do they fix anything?
Since camber has to be tested parallel to the wheel, and since most levels
touch the tire bulge, I wonder if the accuracy of the phone angle
indicators is enough to do rear camber on the bimmer?
The spec is negative two degrees (plus or minus something like a tenth or
so) where I have it set currently to just shy of zero degrees (that's the
most it would go) for tire wear reasons, where I'd have to look up the plus
or minus, but I'd be happy at just being able to measure it to a quarter of
Do you think those phone angle measurements can measure to a quarter of a
degree in the minus one to two degree range needed for camber.
On Saturday, September 15, 2018 at 11:08:44 AM UTC-4, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
I remember a guy who was an electronic service tech at a company decades ago.
He was a nice guy, but had a hard life, a kid that was partially disabled,
he was struggling all the time, never had enough money. But part of his
problem was that he wouldn't take sound advice or use common sense. He was
known for driving an old Dodge and having spare parts in the trunk, swapping
stuff out when the car stopped on the way to a customer, etc.
One day he was telling us how he was going to replace the torsion bar in
the front suspension on the car himself. He was living in an apartment
and had limited tools. We were skeptical about the wisdom of that.
I have no experience with it, but would expect that the torsion bar is
loaded with tension and you might need multiple jacks or something to
be able to both raise the car to get under it and to also take the tension
off the bar. Whatever, you may be able to do it, but without having
the right tools, doing it in an apt complex where they generally don't
allow you to leave cars up on jack stands, etc, it didn't sound like the
best idea. On Monday he comes in with his arm in a sling, he didn't
break it, but he injured himself enough to need the sling.
So, days later, he's telling us he has that done, now he needs to align
it. He proceeds to tell us he can do that, by measuring this, measuring
that, etc, etc. We're like, Joe, I doubt you're going to get it right
and you can get it done for $75 at a shop. And if it's not right, you'll
ruin your tires. But he insisted and did it himself. A couple
months later he's telling us about his latest misfortune, his tires are
going bald and he has to buy new ones. I came to the conclusion that
much of his misfortune was of his own doing.
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:43:09 -0700 (PDT),
I was given a Handy Andy tool set when I was about 8 Some tools were
for children only but others were full size.
I have a bunch of screwdrivers in the house, another in the car, and
when I take a long trip, I bring a little shirt-pocket screwdriver with
2 phillips and 2 flat. Plus a tape measure, mini-volt-ohm meter,
flashlight, and iirc, something else.
When I went swimming in salt-water with my car key, with the
screwdriver, I was able to open it up and replace the battery. It
Yes there are people that don't own any tools . They call an
overpriced service guy to come and fix anything that breaks/quits , etc
- including replacing light bulbs ! Probably a good thing though ,
they'd hurt themselves or break things worse if they tried to repair
With a post like yours, I would have thought you would have one of the
very basic tool kits in you car. I have had one for years. Now I have
the Harbor Freight $ 30 ( on sale) kit in my car. Good enough tools to
get many jobs done in a pench.
Some do not have the basic tools in their house. I really like the
insurance commercial where there are two teenage boys that can not even
change their flat tire.
That information should be part of the drivers education course in
Both of my girls had to manage changing a tire before they got the
keys to Mom's car. Both have also changed their own oil - once.
They both have CAA but generally use COD insted (Call Old Dad) -a
little less from #2 daughter since she married a truck mechanic - - -
I may be living in the past. My last car is a 2017 toyota and it has
something to change to so you can get to a place to get a new tire or
the old one patched.
Seems that I do remember about 20 years ago some companies were sending
out the cars with out spares as there was a tire shortage.
What kind of an idiot company puts out cars without a spare of somekind
More important, what idiot buys a car with out some sort of spare ?
I agree that a donut works.
It's also a *lot* easier for women to put on the car in an emergency.
I've even driven about 1000 miles (worn to the belts) on a donut.
What on earth is the advantage of a donut for most people?
Why do they even put them in the car?
They take up (almost) as much room, don't they?
I mean, how much space is really saved?
They're almost as heavy, aren't they?
(In terms of percentage of a 3000 pound car I mean.)
They must cost almost as much.
What on earth is the *advantage* of a donut?
Advantage is to the car maker, not the owner.
Lighter for better fuel efficiency, cheaper. No space is saved as the
well is often big enough to accommodate a full size tire.
The donut is an advantage as compared to a can of fix-a-flat though.
Add up a few pennies over thousands of vehicles and the bean-counters
The mandates placed on manufacturer's fleet mileage numbers mean they'll
do whatever it takes to gain a few hundredths here, a few more
there...law of unintended consequences strikes again.
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