Aprilaire 600 humidity output

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[Hongyi Kang]

Oh that's really good to know! Thanks!

[Hongyi Kang]

Thanks Mark! I think my thing right now is, I don't think the humidifier is putting more humidity into the rooms when the furnace is on. I actually think it's drier when the hot air is coming out of the registers. This really bothers the hell out of me because I don't know whether I should trust my feelings, but the humidistat kinda agrees with me.

[Hongyi Kang]

g again! Unfortunately I'm Chinese but I always wished I could understand Korean :D

the air flow from supply to the humidifier(the one that I could control wit h the horizontal/vertical switch), then yes I did double check and make sur e it was fully on. I've also tried different water flow from the hot water supply, from minimum to maximum, humidity output did not change. The humi dity monitor I was using was AcuRite 00613A1 Indoor Humidity Monitor. Boug ht from Amazon, not sure if it's okay to post links here so I'll just skip that for now. Anyways for the two years since I had it its performance had been satisfactory for me, it was able to sense humidity changes and never fluctuated when in a stable environment.

can have was 16%, therefore the hot air I was measuring probably was even l ower than 16%, this is the main thing I was concerned about, and also why I think I might be >experiencing something different from other people who h as the same unit.

Keep in mind

hat air cools

it above 40%.

dity out of it.

becoming much higher than 16% sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure if this hot/cold air difference will be able to account for the difference between the 45% and 16%. The humidifier should not sense the outside temperature b ecause when I had it installed I specifically asked for them to not put in the automatic one, but the manual one instead.

g to different numbers, no digital display.

ht out of register is reasonable or not, if it is, I probably shouldn't eve n bother getting the service guy back in again. But if it's not, I'm think ing whether there are other hardware configuration problems involved that t hey could make improvements on.

st it to a higher humidity level when my family really needs it. But again I really don't think that is the issue here.

set it to 45%, but if I set it to ~30%, it stops.

id have 2 years of experience with it and it had been functioning well, aga in I'm getting another one in to make sure, but if you think the whole mode l is just not accurate I probably won't be able to invest more money to get something better and more accurate.

eally tell the difference between wet all over and partly wet, am I suppose d to see stream on every single wire or just a very tiny thin layer of wate r that's hardly observable? Or just drops of water here and there? The dr aining water seemed to all stick to the side of the tubing and not forming a stream.

idifier, in your much bigger house. I really don't see why mine can only g et to 37% when set to 45%. Maybe it's just like what trader said, my furna ce is not blowing enough. But really I felt the driest when the furnace wa s blowing.

doesn't turn on. It only runs when the heat is on.

Hi Tony, sorry I didn't reply earlier, passed out with my crying son last n ight XD. I will definitely ask the service tech about hooking the unit up with blower power. Haha if you were my neighbor it would be a lot of fun, cuz I've always been interested in EE, but I'm a bio major. My last name is actually ?, not sure if the character displays fine on your screen though...

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[Hongyi Kang]

Agree, last night and today had been warm, and the humidity in the house increased to ~47%. My wife said she felt better. I tried both the boiling and filling up bath tub methods last night :D, was a lot of fun lol.

[Tony Hwang]

Hi, Please do it. My brother's name is ???, Koreans up to my generation can read and write Chinese, they quit teaching in high school for a while then they found out that was a mistake. They started teaching it again, LOL! My daughter did microbiology in university and went on to med. school, now she is a teaching doctor at local med. school. (university of Calgary) Your furnace looks like a 2 stage one. Mine is also 2 stage, 110.000 BTU at 96% efficiency. Kids grow up too fast, I still remember carrying daughter on my back every where. Most memorable is carrying her on my back I went down to the bottom of Grand Canyon and back up.....

[trader_4]

ing again! Unfortunately I'm Chinese but I always wished I could understan d Korean :D

s the air flow from supply to the humidifier(the one that I could control w ith the horizontal/vertical switch), then yes I did double check and make s ure it was fully on. I've also tried different water flow from the hot wat er supply, from minimum to maximum, humidity output did not change. The hu midity monitor I was using was AcuRite 00613A1 Indoor Humidity Monitor. Bo ught from Amazon, not sure if it's okay to post links here so I'll just ski p that for now. Anyways for the two years since I had it its performance h ad been satisfactory for me, it was able to sense humidity changes and neve r fluctuated when in a stable environment.

r can have was 16%, therefore the hot air I was measuring probably was even lower than 16%, this is the main thing I was concerned about, and also why I think I might be >experiencing something different from other people who has the same unit.

. Keep in mind

that air cools

You also said

the unit will

e outside temp

t it above 40%.

it as high as

blower is on,

midity out of it.

f the furnace

hat will help.

en becoming much higher than 16% sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure if thi s hot/cold air difference will be able to account for the difference betwee n the 45% and 16%. The humidifier should not sense the outside temperature because when I had it installed I specifically asked for them to not put i n the automatic one, but the manual one instead.

ing to different numbers, no digital display.

ight out of register is reasonable or not, if it is, I probably shouldn't e ven bother getting the service guy back in again. But if it's not, I'm thi nking whether there are other hardware configuration problems involved that they could make improvements on.

just it to a higher humidity level when my family really needs it. But aga in I really don't think that is the issue here.

I set it to 45%, but if I set it to ~30%, it stops.

did have 2 years of experience with it and it had been functioning well, a gain I'm getting another one in to make sure, but if you think the whole mo del is just not accurate I probably won't be able to invest more money to g et something better and more accurate.

really tell the difference between wet all over and partly wet, am I suppo sed to see stream on every single wire or just a very tiny thin layer of wa ter that's hardly observable? Or just drops of water here and there? The draining water seemed to all stick to the side of the tubing and not formin g a stream.

umidifier, in your much bigger house. I really don't see why mine can only get to 37% when set to 45%. Maybe it's just like what trader said, my fur nace is not blowing enough. But really I felt the driest when the furnace was blowing.

er doesn't turn on. It only runs when the heat is on.

I just looked at a Rheem furnace install manual. They provide a line volta ge humidifier output. It clearly says that it's active when:

the burner is on and the blower is running.

Different furnaces may operate differently. You can wire a humnidifier to run either only when the burner is firing, or whenever the fan is on. All the ones around here that I've seen, have been wired to run only when the burner is on and they provide sufficient humidity. I wouldn't want the furnace blower running in winter when it's not putting out warm air. My main point is that HK should know that it's not unusual to see them wired the way his is before he accuses the installer of doing it wrong.

[micky]

On second thought, the bathtub is pretty risky. If you do it often enough, eventually you'll forget and water will overflow who knows how long, hours?

BTW, the overflow drain in tubs (and sinks too I think) doesn't drain nearly fast enough to make up for a running faucet.

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[Hongyi Kang]

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lping again! Unfortunately I'm Chinese but I always wished I could underst and Korean :D

ols the air flow from supply to the humidifier(the one that I could control with the horizontal/vertical switch), then yes I did double check and make sure it was fully on. I've also tried different water flow from the hot w ater supply, from minimum to maximum, humidity output did not change. The humidity monitor I was using was AcuRite 00613A1 Indoor Humidity Monitor. Bought from Amazon, not sure if it's okay to post links here so I'll just s kip that for now. Anyways for the two years since I had it its performance had been satisfactory for me, it was able to sense humidity changes and ne ver fluctuated when in a stable environment.

tor can have was 16%, therefore the hot air I was measuring probably was ev en lower than 16%, this is the main thing I was concerned about, and also w hy I think I might be >experiencing something different from other people w ho has the same unit.

er. Keep in mind

en that air cools

. You also said

were as low as

, the unit will

the outside temp

ant it above 40%.

t it as high as

he blower is on,

humidity out of it.

if the furnace

that will help.

then becoming much higher than 16% sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure if t his hot/cold air difference will be able to account for the difference betw een the 45% and 16%. The humidifier should not sense the outside temperatu re because when I had it installed I specifically asked for them to not put in the automatic one, but the manual one instead.

't buy a unit

you'd likely

nting to different numbers, no digital display.

right out of register is reasonable or not, if it is, I probably shouldn't even bother getting the service guy back in again. But if it's not, I'm t hinking whether there are other hardware configuration problems involved th at they could make improvements on.

adjust it to a higher humidity level when my family really needs it. But a gain I really don't think that is the issue here.

en I set it to 45%, but if I set it to ~30%, it stops.

I did have 2 years of experience with it and it had been functioning well, again I'm getting another one in to make sure, but if you think the whole model is just not accurate I probably won't be able to invest more money to get something better and more accurate.

ld really tell the difference between wet all over and partly wet, am I sup posed to see stream on every single wire or just a very tiny thin layer of water that's hardly observable? Or just drops of water here and there? Th e draining water seemed to all stick to the side of the tubing and not form ing a stream.

humidifier, in your much bigger house. I really don't see why mine can on ly get to 37% when set to 45%. Maybe it's just like what trader said, my f urnace is not blowing enough. But really I felt the driest when the furnac e was blowing.

fier doesn't turn on. It only runs when the heat is on.

I got it, I will ask nicely then and see if they could do it :). Thanks!

[Hongyi Kang]

lol yeah, I figured I probably shouldn't do it every night :D

[Hongyi Kang]

ing again! Unfortunately I'm Chinese but I always wished I could understan d Korean :D

s the air flow from supply to the humidifier(the one that I could control w ith the horizontal/vertical switch), then yes I did double check and make s ure it was fully on. I've also tried different water flow from the hot wat er supply, from minimum to maximum, humidity output did not change. The hu midity monitor I was using was AcuRite 00613A1 Indoor Humidity Monitor. Bo ught from Amazon, not sure if it's okay to post links here so I'll just ski p that for now. Anyways for the two years since I had it its performance h ad been satisfactory for me, it was able to sense humidity changes and neve r fluctuated when in a stable environment.

r can have was 16%, therefore the hot air I was measuring probably was even lower than 16%, this is the main thing I was concerned about, and also why I think I might be >experiencing something different from other people who has the same unit.

. Keep in mind

that air cools

You also said

the unit will

e outside temp

t it above 40%.

it as high as

blower is on,

midity out of it.

f the furnace

hat will help.

en becoming much higher than 16% sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure if thi s hot/cold air difference will be able to account for the difference betwee n the 45% and 16%. The humidifier should not sense the outside temperature because when I had it installed I specifically asked for them to not put i n the automatic one, but the manual one instead.

ing to different numbers, no digital display.

ight out of register is reasonable or not, if it is, I probably shouldn't e ven bother getting the service guy back in again. But if it's not, I'm thi nking whether there are other hardware configuration problems involved that they could make improvements on.

just it to a higher humidity level when my family really needs it. But aga in I really don't think that is the issue here.

I set it to 45%, but if I set it to ~30%, it stops.

did have 2 years of experience with it and it had been functioning well, a gain I'm getting another one in to make sure, but if you think the whole mo del is just not accurate I probably won't be able to invest more money to g et something better and more accurate.

really tell the difference between wet all over and partly wet, am I suppo sed to see stream on every single wire or just a very tiny thin layer of wa ter that's hardly observable? Or just drops of water here and there? The draining water seemed to all stick to the side of the tubing and not formin g a stream.

umidifier, in your much bigger house. I really don't see why mine can only get to 37% when set to 45%. Maybe it's just like what trader said, my fur nace is not blowing enough. But really I felt the driest when the furnace was blowing.

er doesn't turn on. It only runs when the heat is on.

st night XD. I will definitely ask the service tech about hooking the unit up with blower power. Haha if you were my neighbor it would be a lot of f un, cuz I've always been interested in EE, but I'm a bio major. My last nam e is actually ?, not sure if the character displays fine on your sc reen though...

p to my generation

I can totally see the happiness! I wish I could carry my son to the Grand Canyon one day, that would be fun, I haven't even been there myself yet, si gh.

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[Stormin Mormon]

It is nice to have comfort. Sadly, sounds like your humidifier is not doing the job. I wonder if the furnace is over sized, and not allowing for enough run time?

[N8N]

yes on several things. Get some cheap humidor hygrometers and calibrate th em using the salt method (google it) to verify RH in the house.

Then if everything checks out OK but the humidifier just can't keep up (a s ign would be that it is constantly running every single time that the furna ce is calling for heat) consider changing the water feed from cold to hot t o increase the efficiency of the humidifier.

nate

[N8N]

n! Unfortunately I'm Chinese but I always wished I could understand Korean :D

r flow from supply to the humidifier(the one that I could control with the horizontal/vertical switch), then yes I did double check and make sure it w as fully on. I've also tried different water flow from the hot water suppl y, from minimum to maximum, humidity output did not change. The humidity m onitor I was using was AcuRite 00613A1 Indoor Humidity Monitor. Bought fro m Amazon, not sure if it's okay to post links here so I'll just skip that f or now. Anyways for the two years since I had it its performance had been satisfactory for me, it was able to sense humidity changes and never fluctu ated when in a stable environment.

ve was 16%, therefore the hot air I was measuring probably was even lower t han 16%, this is the main thing I was concerned about, and also why I think I might be >experiencing something different from other people who has the same unit.

g much higher than 16% sounds reasonable, but I'm not sure if this hot/cold air difference will be able to account for the difference between the 45% and 16%. The humidifier should not sense the outside temperature because w hen I had it installed I specifically asked for them to not put in the auto matic one, but the manual one instead. So the humidistat on the return duc t is just a round knob pointing to different numbers, no digital display.

f register is reasonable or not, if it is, I probably shouldn't even bother getting the service guy back in again. But if it's not, I'm thinking whet her there are other hardware configuration problems involved that they coul d make improvements on.

yes it definitely would. Hot air can absorb much more water than cool air. That is why in the winter the inside of your house is so dry to begin wit h - it may be 80% RH outside at 20 degrees but (let me google for a real nu mber) that same mass of air heated to 65 degrees will be around 15% RH with out having any change in water content.

So, the most accurate RH measurements should not be made at the register bu t in fact as far away from them as possible, as the air coming out of the s upply duct will be warmer than the ambient temperature of the house.

Now that said, 16% does seem a little low, but it will definitely be lower than your target of 40-45% due to the temperature difference.

This is also why your humidistat is mounted on the return duct.

nate

[trader_4]

them using the salt method (google it) to verify RH in the house.

sign would be that it is constantly running every single time that the fur nace is calling for heat) consider changing the water feed from cold to hot to increase the efficiency of the humidifier.

I believe he said it's already using hot water.