Unless theoptique is designed for the HID bulb being used it is
illegal and the results are not good. All kinds of glare and scatter
problems. If there is a headlamp assembly made for and approved by the
DOT for the vehicle, that upgrade would be good. I'd stay away from
anything else, because the light source has to be at exactly the right
location in the reflector to work properly.
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:24:46 -0500, burfordTjustice
both. look it up for yourself. Any modification to the headlight that
changes it's beam pattern or output (beyond a certain limit which
virtually all HID conversions excede) is against the DOT rules and
modt highway safety acts.
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 05:46:18 -0600, burfordTjustice
There's commentary here http://tinyurl.com/omsfntc at Findlaw
agreeing with Clare. There's an article here http://tinyurl.com/q2ceak5
at the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) talking about customs
agents seizing imports of them.
One paragraph from SEMA:
"U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) is impounding illegal imports of
noncompliant high-intensity discharge (HID) conversion kits, light sources
and ballasts. The CBP is working with the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration (NHTSA) to pursue enforcement. As reported by SEMA for a
number of years, the NHTSA has determined that it is impossible to produce
HID conversion kits (converting a halogen system to HID) that would be
compliant with the federal lighting standard, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety
Standard (FMVSS) No. 108. The NHTSA is specifically concerned that HID
conversion kits can produce excessive glare to oncoming motorists."
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There are some very high output LED setups for motorcycles but they are
sold as driving lights, not a headlight conversion for the same reason,
and have disclaimers about only for off road use etc. If they weren't so
damn expensive I'd get a pair. On a bike, more light is more better when
you live where the deer and the antelope play.
I mounted a set of these on my windshield.
http://www.saeng.com/dproduct.php?idc4&category ` or
I have a switch mounted on the tank so I can easily shut them
off. I leave them on during the day. I read somewhere that it's
best to have lights in a triangle formation. They're supposedly
more noticeable that way. That's one strike against traditional
I have a headlight modulator and wear yellow when riding. Helmets
are required here in Nebraska so I'll look pretty for my funeral.
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I'd be leary of trying to retrofit that technology to an older vehicle.
You can't just arbitrarily "put a big, bright light" on the front
of your vehicle to help YOU see better; there are other folks
on the road! About half of them are coming from the opposite direction!
The HID's also run off a high voltage supply. For the unwary, you
can get a good kick from it if unaware. You wouldn't grab a *plug* wire,
We looked at a few vehicles with HID but the vehicle we chose has
LED (array) headlights. We have been very pleased with them and the
coverage they provide. Feels like you're driving with your
"high beams" on all the time!
The price looks good, but I wonder how good the lights are? I've seen
a couple of upgrades that look great, but I've seen others that have a
blue color to them. That was a couple of years ago and maybe they are
al better now.
I got a factory upgrade and it cost tens of thousands of dollars.
Hid plug in to your existing socket?? I think not. They require a
high voltage ballast power supply - and virtually all are blue-white
Halogen headlamps and HID headlamps require very different optics to
produce a safe and effectivenot to mention legalbeam pattern. How
come? Because of the very different characteristics of the two kinds
of light source.
A halogen bulb has a cylindrical light source: the glowing filament.
The space immediately surrounding the cylinder of light is completely
dark, and so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is along
the edges of the cylinder of light. The ends of the filament cylinder
fade from bright to dark. An HID bulb, on the other hand, has a
crescent-shaped light source -- the arc. It's crescent-shaped because
as it passes through the space between the two electrodes, its heat
causes it to try to rise. The space immediately surrounding the
crescent of light glows in layers...the closer to the crescent of
light, the brighter the glow. The ends of the arc crescent are the
brightest points, and immediately beyond these points is completely
dark, so the sharpest contrast between bright and dark is at the ends
of the crescent of light.
(from Daniel Stern)
FWIW... One of the selling points of HID is that they are "brighter".
I have tried "brighter" bulbs in a couple of cars, up to nearly twice
as bright as the OEM bulbs. From what I could see it didn't make any
meaningful difference in "lighting up the road in front of me". My
conclusion was that if you have crappy optics, which a great many US
cars have, no amount of "brighter" is going to fix that. And since
the HID are likely to not be in the correct optical location they are
even less likely to improve the "lighting up the road in front of me"
goal. So I personally would not bother with retrofitting HID
bulbs/systems into existing optics. I have found adding GOOD driving
lights produces a far better "lighting up the road in front of me"
result then trying to fiddle with the existing optics bulbs.
The only time retrofitting improved things was when I replaced my high
beam sealed beam round SAE "old fashioned" bulbs on my 69 Pontiac with
"hella" style reflectors with halogen bulbs. But those weren't well
sealed and after a few years the reflective surface deteriorated/got
dirty to the point where they were noticeably not as good as when I
first installed them.
And if you are trying to "fix" a 5 year old plastic OEM that's
starting to haze over by putting in brighter bulbs that's a lost cause
too. Most of the increased light will just be scattered into
uselessness and glare by the fogged up plastic.
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