Don't think this is an actual home repair question but I didn't know
where else to post. We just started (I live in NJ so it's starting to
warm up) seeing ants in our kitchen...big brown ones. They huddle on
the sponge and in the sink and dishwasher. Problem is I can't for the
life of me figure out where they're coming from (we're talking like 10
at one time..not hundreds). I've walked outside around the entire
house looking for where they come in....the kitchen is over a basement
so I also looked down there and nothing. Do these things come in
through water pipes? How do I get rid of them??
I had some of those little ants on the counter top in my bathroom.
Just for the heck of it, I doused them with Listerine. I had to do
it for several days in a row, and they vanished. I dont like using
chemicals in the house and this seemed to work fine.
:) snipped-for-privacy@UNLISTED.com wrote:
:) > I had some of those little ants on the counter top in my bathroom.
:) > Just for the heck of it, I doused them with Listerine. I had to do
:) > it for several days in a row, and they vanished. I dont like using
:) > chemicals in the house and this seemed to work fine.
:) Psst! Listerene is a chemical.
And has more reported incidences to poison control centers than any one
group of insecticides...but the counter is minty fresh.
You're absolutely right.
The dangers of DHMO have been ignored
for years. It is a chemical that has been allowed
to enter our homes, even with windows and doors
closed. The amazing part is how much exposure
is tolerated without complaining to the EPA. Their
website is readily available, as well as the Centers
for Disease Control(CDC)
Perhaps you could enlist 'heybub' into contacting the
government agencies regarding this widespread abuse
of hazardous chemicals.
I think the word is getting out. Yesterday morning we woke up to find
that the community services district had shut off all supplies of DHMO
to our house. The relief we felt at learning of their concern for our
health was overwhelming.
Alas, an hour later, they turned it back on. We figure it was dirty
politics or an Enron-like energy scam that the CSD fell for. Now, I
fear, we're screwed.
Here's some of my work:
i second using the sugar poison . just put it out on your counter
where they are comming and in a week or two theyll be gone. i had a
black big ant problem once and this would getem but theyd come back in a
few months. turned out ,when i cut down the two 60 year old sugar maples
in my front yard ,i found they had infested both . after i cut the trees
never hadem back. diazanon or malathion sprayed on ground and
foundation around the house every month in the summer really helps heep
bugs out.. lucas
I had ants entering the attic through a power cable spanning a length
of at least 100 feet. Look at different times of the day. I timed
the ants and it took about 10 or so minutes to make the trip to the
large oak across the street.
I sprayed the base of the oak as well as put down some sugar
insecticide bait in the attic and it took care of it in two weeks.
Small bottle ant bait from hardware. Sugar and boric acid. On the
outside chance it is unusually dry there, and they are just looking for
water, it may be a passing invasion. Doesn't take much room for them to
squeeze into an opening for plumbing or beneath walls. Helps to make
sure cabinets, floor, etc, are squeeky clean. Pet food and kids crumbs
are major factor in bugs seeking food.
Make sure you have no leaks causing wet wood (not necessarily rotten)
behind walls. I had this happen to me when I bought my house 26 years
ago. Turned out that the idiot who inspected the house for insect
damaged did a poor inspection. The entire corner of my house (kitchen
section) from the sill at the foundation to the corner roof rafter
had to be ripped out and rebuilt due to a carpenter ant infestation.
Needed a new corner post (4x6) , new insulation, plywood sheething and
reshingle the siding with cedar shingles.
All of this damage was there before I bought the house. The
termite/insect inspection was useless and I considered suing the
agency but decided to drop it because they had this exclusion about
not being repsonsible for damage hidden in the walls. I couldn't
afford the attorney
All of the money that I had ecieved for wedding gifts (just got
married 26 years ago) and then some had to be spent on bullshit that
should have been caught by the inspector.
Do I sound bitter?
I hate ants, they suck.
I had the same problem in my old house and it drove me nuts. These
were the big black ants and I thought they were coming in from
outside. I did the whole drill, looked for trees overhanging, etc.
They used to appear in the kitchen in the warm weather, 2 to 10 at a
I killed them as I saw them till one day I went to re attach some
siding on the house side that had come loose. I could not nail it
back because ALL THE WOOD BEHIND IT WAS GONE!. It was eaten by those
suckers. I had a major infestation and like the previous poster, had
to remove most of the siding and support.
Don't mess with this. Call someone to give it a good check.
I live in Sussex County. I just put ant poison on the earth next
to the foundation where I had two different colonies of ants
living next to the house and crawling into the kitchen.
I used some "ant crystals" I bought from a mail order place last
winter and some powdered boric acid I had purchased years ago. [I
have lived here seventeen years and finally decided to do
something about the tiny predators crawling around the kitchen.]
Lots of good advice here but everyone is telling you how to kill them, not
how they might be getting into your house. One thing about ants, if there
is a crack, they'll find it. Here in south florida, I think ants have
morphed into super ants because nothing seems to kill them.
In any event, we had a similar problem and the entry point was two-fold.
The range hood was vented to the roof, they were coming in through that. A
removal of the vent pipe top and inserting screen over the pipe then putting
the top back on solved that problem, for about a week. The second entry
point we found was in the gable vent on the end of the house. It has an
electric fan in it that blows the louvres open when the thermostat kicks it
on. It isn't tightly sealed when closed and it turned out to be yet another
entry point. Same thing, took the louvres off and cut a sheet of screen to
fit over the frame the fan was attached to and with my trusty staple gun was
able to seal it all the way around with screen, then put the louvres back
Again, as with ants, I just know it's a matter of time before they find
another entry point and I'm back to Home Depot again. I almost have to
thank the little suckers for helping me find all the holes/cracks in the
I use the plug in type pest repellers in various points of the house, they
are sunbeam models and they seem to be effective and are chemical free.
Another thing to keep in mind is if you've recently had your house tented
for bugs, or a neighbor close by may have had it done. Ants come from all
over to cart off the carrion. Where there is a free meal, there are always
ants looking to take advantage.
Believe me, ants don't need trees to get in or on your house, they defy
gravity so they'll get it if they can.
A major entry point in most kitchens is where the sink drain pipe enters the
wall. You may have the metal ring around the pipe covering the entry point
into the wall. Slide that ring out and see how tight the seal is. If there
is any space at all, spray your bug spray down inside the wall, then caulk
it closed. The same goes for bathroom sinks.
They also like to come in under any breach in the weather stripping on the
bottom of doors. Most people don't think to weather strip the top of doors
Shower drains is a good entry point as well, especially if you have a septic
I'm in Florida, too. Carpenter ants were all over our condo property
until we cleaned up dead wood on lawn and repaired exterior wood panels
that were damaged and wet. One nest in a tree - dead wood - allowed
them to get onto roof and into a kitchen. Bags and bags of poison did
nothing compared to just cleaning up.
We have ground floor unit, and get small ants in the spring when we
leave sweet stuff on the counter too long. They get in easily through
patio sliders, but easy to get rid of using simple bait with sugar/boric
acid. I have read about powdered boric being repellant for some bugs,
as they don't like granules. If they persist after sugar/boric bait,
instructions state to try mixing with a touch of vegetable oil (in case
they are "grease" ants. Ants and other bugs also come in doors more
when conditions are unusually wet or dry (looking for shelter or water).
Don't need to use a ton of poison. In my experience, both in Fl. and
north, cleaning up and putting away their food does the trick most of
the time. Spring seems like time to build more nests, as it is almost
the only time I've ever had them indoors. They like the sugar in
toothpaste, too :o)
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