The floor covering in our kitchen is shot. My wife is not crazy about ceramic
tile, plus, the subfloor would have to be removed to make room for the height of
the ceramic tile.
What are modern alternatives to tile? Linoleum? Recommendations?
Some people do laminate (a.k.a. Pergo, and other brands) click-together,
hardwood-looking flooring. One place to check for pricing, styles, etc. may
be http://LumberLiquidators.com . Also, Home Depot, Lowes, etc.
Go visit a flooring store. There are so many materials in the past 10 years
that I'd be hard pressed to say one is better than another. Sheet goods
tend to be good and easy to maintain, but take a good look at alternatives
and see how they fit with your needs.
Several years ago the installer brought a "tape down" product. He used
double sided tape. The real estate agent was upset as she expected a
glue down type flooring vinyl.
The floor was clean, but this guy put in the effort , cleaned more
trash from the floor and used the tape. Outstanding job that day.
First time I seen a taped vinyl flooring.
We have one-piece vinyl now for the last 10 years, still looks good,
and if you spill something, or the dogs laps water out of his dish,
you don't have to rush to clean/pick it up. Wouldn't consider
anything that was not one-piece to cover the entire floor. Of course,
if you kitchen's smallest dimension is more than 15 feet, you may be
I am following this thread with great interest. My kitchen sheet
tired, big-time. Have been looking at alternatives (price is big
QUESTION: When this vinyl was put down, somewhere in the late
Pleistocene, the floor layer guy that it would be "impossible" --
meaning, I guess, very difficult -- to remove it..
Can this be true? If so, is it possible to put down a new sheet vinyl
floorcovering OVER the old one?
Current common practice by low-bid installers is to cover with 1/4" luan
plywood, and lay the new floor on that. Can be a pita, if doors and
cabinets (and especially dishwasher openings) are not tolerant of the
floor getting taller by 3/8 to 1/2 inch.
They can also skim-coat existing floor with leveling compound, but that
is prone to telegraphing the pattern from the old vinyl, old seams, any
nail pops. etc. Vinyl really wants to go over something smooth and hard
for best results.
Yes you can put vinyl over vinyl but it must be done right.
Option - Put down "underlayment" which is not luan and is more expensive.
Screw and construction adhesive it down. Screw heads must be countersunk.
Screwing pattern is important, especially at seams and wall edges. All
seams and screw heads must be skim coated.
Option - Same as above only with luan.
Option - Same as above two only using ring shank nails.
Option - Scrub wash and strip of ALL dirt and wax. Cut out any loose,
bubbling, peeling vinyl. What remains must be securely in tact. Skim coat
(not floor leveler) to fill old pattern and bring any areas where
insecure vinyl was removed up to level. Dried skimcoat can be sanded to
Which option I would use depends on the floor condition. I've done all of
the above except using ring shank nails. Screws are the sure thing.
Depending on length, ring shank nails can be tricky if you are hand
Thanks for detailed procedure in case I decide to go that way.
(NOTE: Original installer did put down a plywood subfloor; sorry, I
did not think
to ask at that distant time whether it was luan or ?)
I do not know whether it's true what installer said about my
vinyl being so hard to remove. If I decided to lift out a section to
whether , in fact, it is so difficult to remove, how would I proceed?
Would I heat the vinyl with ? to soften it? Or?
TIA for any suggestions.
It's glued down. Time consuming to remove. What comes off will be in
small pieces. Then there is glue and irregularities left on floor. To
remove & smooth, that would be a time consuming task. What is left is not
a good surface for new adhesion. I would avoid this approach at all
cost...personally. My guess is it's the most work resulting in the
The best surface is a new one. A new surface would overall require the
least amout of work and mess.
Remove the vinyl with a floor scraper.
Smooth the floor with a belt sander. This will take off most of the remaining
Fill any low spots.
If you're putting in tile, the thinset will fill low spots just fine.
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