I'm getting very tired of constantly replacing the rubber flappers on our
three toilets. I've tried different suppliers and grades, but after a few
months they seem to distort and start leaking.
I know that there is no buildup on the flapper, or the hole where it seats.
The pull chain isn't snagging and holding up flapper. Why would I get leaks
after a few months?
Anyhow, I'm looking for an alternative for the flapper on my toilets.
Something that will last a good while before needing any kind of repairs.
Any idea on what I could use?
For most people, those flappers last for many years without leaking.
Do you use any "products" in your toilet to keep them fresh, or color
the water, etc? If not, the other thing might be the mating surface
for the flapper having minor flaws. A brand new flapper is a little
more resilient, so it might overcome those flaws for a while before
beginning to leak.
I have used those tank pucks that clean the tank, and I think that was the
culprit. I've since stopped. I did check the mating surface and didn't feel
any roughness, etc.
I've put in a new flapper and it's working fine. Lets see how long it lasts.
re: constantly replacing the rubber flappers on ... three
toilets. ...after a few months they seem to distort and start
Something is very bizarre here. As someone else mentioned, flappers
usually last years, and I mean *years and years*. I've replaced entire
toilets before I've had flappers go bad.
The fact that you have 3 toilets that are going through flappers every
few months is very strange.
You are not going to like this, but since you said you've been
replacing them on 3 toilets, and you've "tried different suppliers and
grades", there are only 2 common denominators left:
The water...and you.
I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but either you've got some serious
issues with your water that's eating away at these things or you're
installing them wrong.
I've had the same experience with those blue tablets that you put in the
tank. I had lots of problems with everything in there until a plumber told
me to stop using anything in the tank. No problems since.
The last time I worked on a problem like this (a toilet that wouldn't
stop leaking even with new flappers), the culprit turned out to be a bad
seat. Not hard to replace, and should solve this vexing problem for you.
Washing one\'s hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.
On Wed 03 Sep 2008 12:52:05p, David Nebenzahl told us...
There are kits that include the flapper and a replacement ring/seat that
adheres to the existing seat with a waterproof mastic. I used one of these
years ago and never had to replace the flapper again.
There are several on the market. Here is one example:
I don't think anyone mentioned this, but get OEM flappers, not
aftermarket ones. I have an Eljer that never worked right with the
Fluidmaster or Korky flappers. Once I ordered the factory part by
Eljer, it works perfect, and has been for 4 years now.
This place has everything, including schematics of your toilet and
Three toilets with the same problem?...........Try fixing the problem
the right way. Buy quality flappers and do not use any chemicals in
Here is a good flapper that will last forever
Are you buying the el-cheapo ones? the better grades last longer.
Hard water shortens the life. But not to the extreme you posted.
The toilet tank cleaners shorten the life of all, even the best. Blue water
kills flappers. Especially the cheap ones.
I bet on irregularities on the seat. A new flapper is soft and can
conform to the irregularities, but after time, the flapper gets
stiffer and cannot handle the roughness of the seat and then the
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