My contractor is really sticking it to me with a new 5-ton Liebert
unit I need connected to the buildings glycol loop.
Our original unit was done for $5200. The unit was about 50 feet from
the tie-in location.
Now we have a second unit that is only 35 feet from tie-in, and they
want $9800 for the hookup and R-22 charging of the unit.
Am I out-of-place in questioning the contractor? $9800 seems like alot
of money for simply connecting a glycol-cooled Liebert to an existing
I figure $800 or so for 1-1/4" pipe, $200 for glycol, $150 for R-22,
and the rest is labor/profit.
Yes, I have seen the costs of copper, glycol, R-22, and I love how
everybody blams high prices on materials.
1 1/4" Copper pipe is $8 per LF, 60 feet total is $480
50lb cylinder of R-22 is $135
5 gallons of Glycol is $155 (60 feet of 1 1/4" pipe at 50% mix is
approx 2 gallons)
Hangers and ceiling anchors approx $100
So thats $870 in materials, for a job quoted at $9800.
And the job is running two pipes 30 feet, with a couple of 90 degree
bends, maybe 10 sweated connections on total. A two man crew should be
able to finish this is 2 days.
So in my honest opinion, $9800 is an absurd price. They did the job
for $5200 3 months prior, and I doubt they lost money on the deal.
If its so damn easy John, then why dont you just do it yourself?
If the hvac guys are charging what you think is way too much then why
dont you open up your own shop and tell us how much money you arent
making in a year?
Life's a bitch but when you want the comvienence of picking up the
phone, calling someone and having them do all the work start to finish
its going to cost you. I hope you dont have a wrist cramp writing the
Don't forget about other expenses. You know, like....
Shop rent/morgage payment
Inventory manager's wages
Yellow page ads
State license fee
Local license fee
The list is much longer than this...
50 lb for $135... BULLSHIT!!!!!!
If it's so easy.... DO-IT-YOURSELF!!!
Copper prices change daily. Fuel costs change daily.
Fuel costs effect almost everything in today's world, where have you been
hiding? (under a rock)
Diesel is at $4.00/gal here today, regular gasoline is still at $3.30 and is
supposed to go up again this week.
If the price of fuel goes up much more, I will have to raise my prices
again, even tho the folks around here don't have the $$$ to pay it. Even
"Bubba" had to raise his prices because his wife was tired of having to
support his business.
Sorry my friend... I was refering to the *local* "Bubba" and
"Billy-Joe-Jim-Bob" that finally went from $50 for a service call all the
way up to $60!! Yes we have a contractor down here who's nam really is
Bubba...He's the local Carrier dealer.
At $75, I am still loosing a bunch of money, but nobody wants to pay the
*REAL* cost of putting a truck on the road, and getting the tech to the
service call. At last calculation, that was right at $167.00 just to break
even......and thats even before the tech gets out of the truck. Right now
with the current state of the economy, My calls are way down, and my gross
profit is less than $200 for the year. I don't see it getting any better any
If the OP wants to whine and snivel because his contractor has to charge
what it takes for him to keep his doors open, then he can do it himself,
then call the contractor to come back and straighten out the mess at TWICE
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