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That was sort of my question. Whether I needed HVAC licensing even though I make no claim about being an HVAC tech. Analogy: I could do oil changes on cars too, without being a licensed mechanic--are there laws to prevent me from doing so?

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I'm learning. I think it's on-topic, and it's interesting to explore. Perhaps some unemployed people are reading along.

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I considered all of the above already.

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That was sort of my question. Whether I needed HVAC licensing even though I make no claim about being an HVAC tech. Analogy: I could do oil changes on cars too, without being a licensed mechanic--are there laws to prevent me from doing so?

... city, county state.....business,

I'm learning. I think it's on-topic, and it's interesting to explore. Perhaps some unemployed people are reading along.

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Stormin Mormon

You will have to do some homework and contact the appropriate authorities in you area.

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Steve

I don't underestimate the value of Usenet and the Internet (either). I even gave cash-money to Wikipedia last year, just because. There is a satisfying social elelment to it all too! I am not however on any of ther social sites (Facebook, etc.)

Cheers, Bill

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Bill

Yes, there is a price point where you maximize income with the same amount of work. Your price point may depend on where you are headed. Are you a single man shop? Do you want to grow to be a large organization? An established single man shop can have a higher price point to maximize income and work 40 hrs. You also need a way to generate the incoming calls. The better you are at generating the incoming calls the higher your price point can be. Remember you only need enough work to fill the 40 hours. However, if you want to build an organization you may want to have a little lower price point and make every customer part of your sales team. They can be repeat customers and spread your name by word of mouth. You may not generate high personal income for many years while you are adding employees and building a large base, but at some point you will have 10 other people generating your income and at that point your income will be more than if you are a single man shop. My wife and I are a single man *shop, no desire to get any bigger.

Mikek

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amdx

One of my political activist correspondents sent a message out saying that less than 50% of the workforce pay any taxes. The implication was that the number of people in full time jobs was about 43%. After the shock of that statement wore off and I did some checking with the US Department of labor, I found that 74% have full time jobs. The other

26% are those who would like to work but are out of work, roughly 9% with the 17% of the group underemployed which could be working part time or for less than a standard wage. In the mid 80s, work became so scarce that I was only working 20 hours a week. Employers would go ahead and lay us off if we wanted to collect the unemployment but most of us just hung in there waiting for better time which did come.

When I came into the trade in 1967, there was an estimated shortage of

100,000 technicians. Does anyone know what that figure might be today?

John

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john

I don't know what the current stats are. But, my gut hunch is the economy is doing terrible, and the unemployment is way up. On the radio a couple days ago, an economist show was telling of all the tax rates going up at the first of the year, and the various deductions and cuts which are going away (same effect as tax hike). I think the US will be many years recovering from the Obama spending and taxing.

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One of my political activist correspondents sent a message out saying that less than 50% of the workforce pay any taxes. The implication was that the number of people in full time jobs was about 43%. After the shock of that statement wore off and I did some checking with the US Department of labor, I found that 74% have full time jobs. The other

26% are those who would like to work but are out of work, roughly 9% with the 17% of the group underemployed which could be working part time or for less than a standard wage. In the mid 80s, work became so scarce that I was only working 20 hours a week. Employers would go ahead and lay us off if we wanted to collect the unemployment but most of us just hung in there waiting for better time which did come.

When I came into the trade in 1967, there was an estimated shortage of

100,000 technicians. Does anyone know what that figure might be today?

John

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Stormin Mormon

I wonder how much one could make using you as a subcontractor? ;-p

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PaxPerPoten

In many parts of the country you must be licensed and pay a special excise tax to the State.county/city/etc in order to touch any HVAC equipment. Other parts of the country, nobody really cares..unless you burn down something or the other. Licensing of course requires a test of ability and a certain amount of experience gained while working for a licensee.

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PaxPerPoten

We and your customers are sincerely hoping that you are also learning!

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PaxPerPoten

I see Facebook stock is down to $10, which is less then half of their IPO. Could it be that the world buyers have finally woke up to the fact that Facebook owns nothing tangible? The Dickhead that started Facebook hauled ass to Switzerland renouncing his American Citizenship.

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PaxPerPoten

A higher but fair price will help to eliminate the chiselers and deadbeats. It also cuts down on no-pays, slow-pays and bad checks. Save you charity work for those that deserve and need it. Feed you family first!

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PaxPerPoten

The Democrats are getting just what they deserve. It is a damned shame that they have drug the rest of America into the abyss with them. Next time maybe they will field a real citizen of this country.

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PaxPerPoten

Probably quite a bit, I'm trainable and eager to learn! : )

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Bill

I think if I lived a mile north (different county), I would have some issues, but where I am I don't think they worry too much.

Licensing of course requires a test of

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Bill

If someone is intent on ripping you off, I would be surprised that they would be sensitive to the actual dollar amount!

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Bill

IPO price was $38. High of about $43 the first day. Opened today at $19.05. It's all time low is $18.75. There are still shareholders who cannot sell until toward the end of the year. After they do their selling, then perhaps you can get a fair price. Actually I don't think $10 is necessarily far off the mark (of what I might pay), and part of me still worries that it is pure gambling. I wouldn't like to get Zuck'ed! : )

Could it be that the world buyers have finally woke up to the fact

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Bill

Maybe that would be viable? What percentage of calls are basically completed by replacing a capacitor?

Bill

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Bill

Usually a higher but fair price brings in a better class of clientele. If you wish to deal at the social strata of ripoff artists,,, be my guest. I might even be able to give you a list from the collected experiences of the local Contractors association.

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PaxPerPoten

20 to 30 percent perhaps.. No real figures to go on. Most are Stormy's thermostats..;-p
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PaxPerPoten

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