I've seen thermocouples last for the life of
the furnace. Failure could be due to what's
in the air mixing with the flame and corroding
the thermocouple. What color is the pilot flame?
If the thermocouple is cleaned with sandpaper,
it may start working again.
Did it ever occur to you that your heating unit has long passed the time
to update it? Its pay me now or pay me later situation. Any Gas fuel
system will pay for itself by going with the high efficiency units we
have been installing since the 1980's.
Yes, it has occurred to me. I live in New England and use heat quite a bit
and my boiler is five days old. You, however, had a bit of a smirk that
thermocouple units no longer exist. For better or worse, they do.
Yep, they exist on newer equipment. Newer equipment that is el cheapo
that is. And I am curios, if the boiler is five days old and the
thermocuple lasted three years, what kind of math is that? Now shut
the hell up and solve for x, dummy.
I am the real ftwhd and I approve this message.
Better read your union code book... No pilots in residential! Yes the
Math is a bit spooky. Send the man a number 10 coal scoop and a chimney
scrubber. You can still install pilot systems in light and heavy
commercial, dependent on the floor load population.
Not here in residential heat units. You cannot even purchase them.
Pilot lite are even being phased out on water heaters. The water heaters
that have pilots, have a flame so small that you can barely see it. As
for the smirk, you ass... I have been around long enough to convert coal
furnaces to fuel gas system. New trailer/mobile/modular homes cannot
even have a pilot furnace installed in them and those units are still
rated at 80% efficiency. Apparently they all come with electric water
heaters also. Evnthe big boiler systems we install for commercial are
electronically ignited and have a $thousand worth of safety devices..Low
water etc. Also the are capable of calling them on the phone and
changing settings or calling you in case of breakdown. Mr Pawlowski,
you have a safe, sane and hapy holiday season. Do what is best for your
PS Every state has federal money to update heating systems for those
that cannot afford to do it on their own. You can get that by calling
you State Heat assistance office or the local Community development
office. They will also repair your modern unit if required. There is
little paperwork for these needs and the service is usually
instantaneous. You can also get assistance with Heat bills up to $980 a
year depending on weather conditions and area.
OK, you've been around a long time, but that does not mean pilot lights so
not exist any more. I know they stopped making them a while back, buy
plenty of old boilers and furnaces are still around.
I used to live in Philadelphia. There were tens of thousands of homes with
pilot light heaters built in the 1940's to 1980. Some still have those
original heaters and still have thermocouples.
Sure, better technology exists, but it will be a couple of more decades
before they are gone.
I just spent $60,000 at work to have our two steam boilers updated with
controls. O2 sensors, modulating gas valves, etc. I can go to the boiler
from my office or my home PC at any time too. OUr gas bill runs about
$10,000 a month every months since it is process, not heating.
Last Monday I had a new oil boiler installed in my house. It will take a
while to get actual numbers, but I know it is already saving me money as it
runs less for the same heat. Big savings on hot water with an indirect
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Federal manufactures code does not allow pilot systems to be installed
in those. I checked several distributorship's on line and could not find
one Nordyne pilot system of the last few years manufacture that
contained a pilot system. I also checked with fire codes for those
systems and they are verboten. You may of course check with your local
fire marshal for verification. I don't invent these codes and
manufacturers federal requirements.. I merely try to live with them.
I understand the fuel gas systems are a special order. Actually the
sales companies also try their best to peddle you a home with an
electric furnace and an air to air heatpump. The Insurance folks like it
that way. Apparently less chance of a trailer fire. No expert on
trailers, but I do read my codes and the federal flyers that many
companies promptly delegate to the circular file.
I deleted the Home repair NG.
I have not seen a pilot system in any gas furnaces that were installed after
All of my customers that live in trailers have electric heat, which would be
fine if they wouldn't screw around with them. Roughly 30 percent of my
no-heat calls in trailers have had sequencer(s) blown apart and seriously
burnt wires. FWIW, I won't even touch a gas furnace in a trailer unless I am
removing it to replace it with electric.
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