It is a lousy fuel. It takes more energy to produce then it will expend.
It costs the taxpayer 55 cents a mixed gallon and it still can't
compete. The farmers love it. They pay $10,000 per share for the company
and usually buy several shares. This ownership gives them a guarantee of
a locked in high price for their corn and other alcohol producing crops.
This in turn has caused the companies to declare bankruptcies in a down
market that we are now in. The largest 2 producers along with about 9
smaller producers are here in South Dakota. The farmers are having
another Bumper crop year, but require higher prices as the fuel costs
and petroleum based fertilizers, insect sprays, etc have taken a helluva
a toll. A friend of mine borrowed over $800,000 in a production loan
this year. That is getting real common. many have borrowed several
$million to install windfarms. One super windmill costs about $1.8
million and is projected to recover its investment plus profit in 7
years. I believe Hell will freeze over first.
Don, I have to disagree on the gasohol... as far as being a lousy fuel... My
own experiences have proven to me that ita a lot better than just straight
gasoline. Not only in better performance, and better fuel economy, but its
that much less dependence on fossil fuels and its more environmentally
You implied that all happened from the use of Gasohol. I just wanted to
know if you used it for fuel or drank it. ;-p I once had a Pontiac that
had a 429 cu that dyno'ed at the Lions in Long Beach at 395 HP without
all that stuff. Got 14 mpg on High test. It could pass everything except
a gas station.
Actually the efficiency ratio is predicated to changing 100% of the
fuels BTUH to 100% work. Horsepower actually can be a waste if it is
more then you need to economically transport mass at the most efficient
speed. A high horsepower engine running at high speed is absolutely not
efficient. One of the most efficient Engines was the Sterling Engine.
Chrysler tried to produce a Gas turbine in 1962-63 that supposedly was
fuel efficient. it was actually worse then a standard internal
combustion engine, Was an expensive maintenance nightmare and was
expensive to produce. Chrysler pulled them off the streets In 1965? and
shredded every one of them. They didn't even save one for the Museum.
As for emmissions..They cannot be avoided as much of that is created by
additives that don't totally burn. Its the old adage of energy cannot be
destroyed only changed in form.
MTBE is a known carcinogen, and collects in the ground water as well as
being dispursed in the air. the MTBE blend that was used in California
*REDUCED* power, efficiency and fuel economy by 15%, and just 2 years after
they started using it, they found it in the lakes, the rivers, the ground
water, and in the air.
E85 that the state vehicles use produces about 14 mpg. Standard 10
percent drops my little van from 21 to 19 mpg. Yes it is more
environmentally friendly and it does not leave residue in your cylinders
or fuel injectors. The major residue left by real gasoline is the
additives. In the winter gasoline there is a lot more additives that
leave residue in the engine, tank and fuel system. Also while gasoline
sours rather quickly.. It does not sour as fast with an alcohol mix in
it. I state again, that it should not be subsidized by the taxpayer.
We also have 27% gasohol that the newer flex fuel cars can burn. But
most that have them around here will only use 10% gasohol. I don't know
why..I guess I will have to ask. Soy diesel has been a dismal failure.
The truck companies that used it for a while have totally condemned it
as not viable for the long haul trade. All farmers and Ranchers I know
refuse to use it. Many of our lads have ranches and farms that are a bit
remote and can be inaccessible in winter. Thus they do a lot of their
own repair work. I use 10% in my small engines, Snowblowers, Lawn
mowers, generators, etc. Gasohol has a higher octane ratio as the
alcohol has a higher ignition temperature and a much lower BTU(energy)
rate then straight gasoline. Thus by the laws of physics, Alcohol
produces less energy then gasoline.
I've considered using gasohol in my snow blower. Less risk of alcohol in the
carb, and having to take it all apart. Same deal with the other vehicles,
run a galon or two of gasohol every few weeks, to keep the water out of the
system. Same idea as using "dry gas" but don't have to do my own mixing.
Others tell me the alcohol content sucks water out of the air. I'm not sure
who to believe.
Use Neoprene seals for that. All the cars since 1974 have gone to that
type of seals and gaskets in the fuel systems. Methyl alcohol is worse
then Ethyl alcohol. All intank fuel pumps have a sock, that will
eventually seal itself and then produce a seam rip half way up. that
causes you to have to have roughly 1/2 tank of Gasoline for it to suck
gas.. Anything below that and you run out of fuel to pump. This is the
legacy of Gasohol for the present. ;-p
Gasohol helps to keep the gasoline from souring and jelling in the jets.
I also use a bit of SeaFoam when storing for the season. Alcohol does
attract moisture. Keep in mind that several car designs used water
injection into the carburetor for a better burn. Buick Wildcat ..Circa
1962-3 was one. I refuse to use red offroad fuel in the small motors as
it does tend to jell in the jets and float valves.
Where I live, in the NY Metro burbs, there is no choice; gasoline is
available only as 10% Alcohol. The MBTE that was used a few years ago was
found out to be a carcinogen, so they substituted alcohol to stretch the
gasoline and............ bullshit. it gives lower mileage as we all have
said (except Steve)
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