Hey, Hey Junior. Im not Nate Certified. Honestly, I dont see the need.
I got my refrigeration certification (because I had to), I got my
Journeyman and Masters HVAC certification (because I had to) and I
have every other local and state certificate I need to perform the job
I do. Guess what? Not a one of them made me any smarter in the job I
do. It all comes from within. If you like what you are doing, you will
strive at doing it better. Im a bit of a perfectionist so I take the
training I need to do my job well. Im really kind of sick of all the
govt mandated shit you have to jump through to "be a better tech/co."
All it does is makes for a richer govt.
Currently it is a 'state' test. If you pass, you're certified. The state
of California doesn't care where you received you training. Just that you
Currently manufactures that required "certifications" usually are the
certifier and offer the training. Albeit at a high cost, but they do offer
it. Some are free.
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I'm curious about this. Two of the several states I hold Master
Electrician Licenses in have state tests... but you cannot even sit for
them unless you have one hell of a lot of 'certified' training.
Can someone walk in off the street in California, pay the fee and take
the test... or are there limited sanctioned 'certifiers' like we have in
Here's some interesting links on this for you
The certification process was pushed thru pro-union governor, Gray
Davis by union dominated California Appreniceship Council.
some quotes from the links above:
The only electrical apprenticeship programs approved by the California
Apprenticeship Council are administered by the Western Electrical
Contractors Association (non-union), Associated Builders and
Contractors (non-union) and the International Brotherhood of
Electrical Workers (union). WECA has opined that it is extremely
unlikely that the union-dominated California Apprenticeship Council
will recognize a need for additional programs.
While the testing and certification legislation had support from both
Republicans and Democrats, opinion on the new law is mixed. Electrical
unions generally support the law on the ground that it will raise
industry standards and increase safety. Critics, such as the Fair
Licensing and Apprenticeship Coalition, which has many non-union
contractor members, assert that unions hold a "death grip" on the
Division of Apprenticeship Standards and monopolize the California
Apprenticeship Council. Moreover, they say, apprenticeship programs,
which are dominated by unions, will force aspiring electricians to
unionize. This will require employers to raise wages, which in turn
will raise the costs of hiring an electrician.
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