On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:32:45 -0800
] Cereus, you're just not reading your own link very carefully. I will quote
] extensively below:
It is often difficult to rely on pure internet sources, because there is
no face or reputation behind the post. I'm interested in what "Jim"
has to say, but I don't know how seriously to take him.
However I notice that the maple society posters in the thread do not
recommend growing from cuttings.
I quoted Vertrees earlier in this thread. (It might be noted that he
is the spiritual mentor of the folks at Mountain Maples, so I find
it surprising that they don't mostly follow his methods. I didn't
find any success rates for cuttings quoted on their site, but in
any event I expect they are able to provide environments like mist
that are far beyond the capabilities of the amateur.) Someone in
the cited thread quotes van Gelderen/de Jong, and I repeat it
"A significant disadvantage of propagation by cuttings
is that all the roots are clonal. A number of species and cultivars, including
Acer palmatum, do not form vigorous trees on their own roots....Clonal plants on
are far more susceptible [to Verticillium dahliae(wilt disease)] than those
species rootstock. In this author's opinion, commercial propagation of cultivars
A. palmatum by cuttings is to be avoided, although many growers have a different
I don't know what other growers he is referring to, but I doubt many
are in Europe. (I buy maples from van Gelderen and can vouch for
the very fine quality and the passion of the family for maples. He
is widely acknowledged as the expert on Acer in the western
world, including of course palmatum, of which he has named many
Another maple expert I have dealings with is James Harris of
Mallet Court Nursery. Mr. Harris sits on the management
committee of Hillier Gardens, is a fellow of the Linnean Society
and a member of the council of the International Dendrology
Society. He is among the foremost British maple experts
and Mallet Court is a leading propagator.
Harris says: "Grafting is often preferred to cuttings as the plants
grow away better and establish themselves more quickly. Also
it is not unknown for maples that are propagated by cuttings to
collapse and die after four or five years. It is not clear what causes
this phenomenon and, as far as I know, no research [as to the cause]
has been done so far."
This doesn't speak to the difficulty of growing from cuttings, but
that is amply documented also.
In the literature there is little room for doubt that growing
A. palmatum from cuttings is very difficult to do and may
have heartbreaking results somewhat later. Does that mean
it's impossible? No. Just not recommended. As I mentioned
before, if you're inclined to try, I'd be the first to wish you
the best of luck.
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