Of course they would, especially if they wanted
to get promotions and keep their jobs.
They have also been caught falsifying data:
Seeing a trend here?
Here is an excellent paper on sea levels. (He mentions the
Of course, if this is your religious believe and you know
it is correct in your bones, who cares if you cheat, you
know you are right. And certainly, don't let the scientific
method get in your way. Some of you guys are worse than the
the riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped
SUMMARY: Multidecadal Oscillations in the Pacific and the
Atlantic are acknowledged to be the result of natural
And the ice is coming back as predicted:
All normal and expected.
> If you cannot provide standard accepted
> scientific facts, then just STFU
Did I offend your religious beliefs?
Religion and science don't mix. It is up to you
to prove to me what your theories are, not the
other way around. That is the scientific method.
Did I mention your side got caught cheating?
Also in science, you don't get offended when someone
offers alternate viewpoints. It is all part of the
Would you like some of my moon cheese? You
have to prove to me it does not exist. You
denier you. I don't have to prove a thing
NASA satellite images show August 2012 [left] and
August 2013 [right]. (Photo: NASA)
Again, all normal and expected. All part of the
"Multidecadal Oscillations". No need to scream the
sky is falling and take away your freedom
Here is an alternate scientific viewpoint on the
rising sea levels that aren't:
On page three he call the Global Warming crowd
on falsifying the data. Hmmm. See a trend here?
If there was anything to this, the ideologues would
not have to cheat or presort to religious extremist
terms to sell their snake oil.
Now, my Moon Cheese, on the other hand, regardless
of what the Deniers say was found in the moon rocks,
is real. The science is already in. The cheese
is locked up in the moon's core where you can't
see or measure it. Give me you lifestyle and
your freedom OR I WON'T SHARE WITH YOU.
Ice extent rebounded from the lowest recorded to "only"
just under two standard deviations from 20th century
averages. Total volume of ice, however, did not increase.
You are pulling my leg, right?
You, sir, are the person who has invested in belief. The
"caught cheating" accusation was and is full of holes and
had its own agenda (to create FUD).
You completely ignore my introduction of other observations
NASA wants my freedom? NOAA threatens my faith?
A trivial portion of my tax money goes to them. You
are arguing politics, not science.
As for politics, I have, over the last three decades, sadly
come to the conclusion that the GOP is no longer Grand.
That the labor unions were *not* obsolete, as I had
There actually is big money involved--on the climate change denial side:
Oh, and a medical analysis of an actual paleo-man:
No, you have just never hear this before.
"Post-glacial rebound (sometimes called continental
rebound, glacial isostasy, glacial isostatic adjustment)
is the rise of land masses that were depressed by the huge
weight of ice sheets during the last glacial period,
through a process known as isostasy. It affects northern
Europe (especially Scotland, Estonia, Fennoscandia, and
northern Denmark), Siberia, Canada, the Great Lakes of
Canada and the United States, the coastal region of the
US state of Maine, parts of Patagonia, and Antarctica."
Last of of these the midwest had, the Mississippi river
flowed backwards and the liberty bell rang.
The amount of weight on Greenland to provide the volume of
water to raise the sea levels would be so great
that the earthquakes would be felt worldwide.
> There actually is big money involved--on the climate
> change denial side:
No doubt. Remember, since you are a science nut, you
have to prove it to me, not the other way around.
And, since you are a "science nut", please stop using
religious extremist terms ("denial") to describe "skeptics"
No Moon Cheese for you today!
How would one know?
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A better world requires a daily struggle
against those who would mislead us.
There are actually people who think Landover Baptist Church is
I must really have a word with my tomato plants, as I've now
harvested my first eggplants* but still no ripe tomatoes other
than the SunSugar hybrids. Not even a hint of color!
*cubed, microwaved, then a dash of sesame-garlic sauce. *yum*
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 14:36:41 -0400, Boron Elgar
That is exactly the issue, the AGW models cannot explain as well as the
older standard model. Worse they predict don't worth a tinkers damn
either. AGW is NOT science, it is religion. Show better quality
predictions or STFU yourself.
Really, if you want to argue with what 97% of the subject qualified
scientists say, by all means, have fun out there swinging in the wind.
When 2 people tell you you're drunk, go to bed.
And the other 3% have been sent to mental health institutions.
Sounds like a Soviet election.
And, that is not how science works. You don't get to vote
By the way, good luck reproducing that 97% number. It
was done fraudulently.
This is not science, this is religion. In science, the
very minute some fudges their data, you toss them out.
He works for a right-wing think tank with (ultimately) shady finances.
Todd, the big money is with the petroleum industry and bankers,
not the academics.
So what's the push-back on the evidence of phenology?
A personal attack. See a trend here too? Told who to hate, by chance?
AND BIG GOVERNMENT! The worst of them all.
Do a google search on "how is getting rich off of cap and trade"
My spell checker does like "phenology", but wikipedia does.
What is your point? The fraudsters used tree rings from
"one" tree in Siberia. What does Phenology have to do with
that? "Massaging your data" is corruption, not science.
In science you don't go out and say this is fact, now
disprove me. Okay, except for Moon Cheese.
The earth goes through a 206 year solar cycle. Variations in
climate are normal. We have nothing or very, very little to
do with it. "Phenology" is very much affected by solar
Remember our atmosphere is ~1% water vapor and 0.039% carbon
dioxide . Water vapor is the "mother of all green house
gases", at over 25 TIMES greater than CO2. But, can't
regulate that or make money off it -- see the recommended
Google search above.
You are being sold a bill of good. So, reach down, grab your
ankles, and kiss your freedom goodbye! Don't think so?
This from a recent UN sponsored conference on climate
“The structural causes of climate change are linked to
the current capitalist hegemonic system,” the final
declaration said. “To combat climate change it is
necessary to change the system.”
Funny thing, they also recommended dropping cap and trade
and just plowing forward with tyranny.
And, from President Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic :
...in the recent years we came to witness yet another major
attack on freedom and free markets, an attack based on
environmentalism and in particular its global warming variant.
The explicitly stated intentions of global warming activists
are frightening. They want to change us, to change the
whole mankind, to change human behavior, to change the structure
and functioning of society, to change the whole system of
values which has been gradually established during centuries.
These intentions are dangerous and their consequences far
reaching. These people want to restrict our freedom. It is
our duty to say NO.
Were you told to hate him too?
Oh yes, and here are some of your flags flying over the Copenhagen
12/09 Global Warming conference:
Look familiar? Keep kissing your freedom goodbye.
No Moon cheese for you!
Nice try. Didn't work. Too much fraud out there in the
Global warming community. Notice how they run personal
attacks on those that out them? Real science there
for sure! This is not how science works. It is how
ideology work though.
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