does anybody have experience with cutting branches on real tall
I have an electric chan saw. What else I need.
How do I secure myself on the tree? Any tricks to learn before I start
Where do I cut branches? Next to the trunk or in the middle?
All I know about trimming trees, is what NOT to do. . .DO NOT seat
yourself on a limb and them cut the part of that limb nearest the
trunk. It WILL have disasterous results;-)
Seriously however, there are a couple of websites out there that may
help you. They are as follows:
Hope this helps!
Neighbor's house recently sold. Widow moved into extended care home.
Owner died a couple of years ago when storm downed tree he was cutting
for firewood fell on him and killed him. Then the drug addict I met in
the hospital having gangrenous toes removed got started with drugs due
to using for pain relief after falling while cutting a tree. Then
there was supervisor who almost bled to death when chain saw slipped
and cut his femoral artery. Hire a pro.
I'm a grandmother - I don't do trees! I hire them done, and have had
mixed result even from that!
I have a few young agile neighbor guys that occassionally do a tree on
their own. Some of them do just fine.
I do a lot of things around my house because I have the philosophy that
a gal (even an old one) can do anything a guy can do. . .Just as long
as strength isn't a barrier. Even the larger jobs can usually be
broken down into smaller more manageable compenents. Like I've
replaced a wax ring on a toilet by taking the top of the tank off, so
iti is in two pieces rather than a more heavier one piece.
But, if I had that electric chain saw of your's, I'd keep it for the
smaller stuff, and hire a pro.
You don't start your construction career building skyscrapers. You don't
start playing the stock market by suddenly becoming a day trader. You
don't learn to drive in an 18-wheeler carrying hazardous materials. And
you don't start being an arborist by getting a few hints, and then
climbing into a tree.
Then again, if you're trying to earn a place on next year's Darwin
Awards list, go ahead. Just make sure that if you have any dependants
that you have a big life insurance policy that's paid up, and covers
doing insanely stupid things.
There's often more involved than just taking away one branch. A good tree
service will look for other things, like limbs that are rubbing against one
another. That'll cause "sores" which leave the tree open to disease. Take
away a limb or two, and tree may look imbalanced. So, a real expert will
know how to do a bit of artistic work on the tree, too.
Some cities and electric/phone companies hire private contractors to do tree
trimming. This goes not mean these tree companies are the best, but it
MIGHT. If a tree service messes up a homeowner's tree, it can result in some
rather large financial liability. So, it's worth a phonecall to your
electric company to see who they hire for this work. You can ask friends &
neighbors for names, but this isn't the type of work people need very often,
so it might take a while to find someone good. If you see work being done,
stop and watch, and ask questions. If they sound stupid, walk away. If they
can briefly describe what they did and why, you might be onto someone good.
My father owned a sawmill, as a young man I worked in the woods
cutting timber, and were I 30 again, I would not try climbing a tree
with a chainsaw, and cutting the limbs. Only with a bucket truck, and
experience should one try this.(not even from a ladder)
Have a good one- The Oldtimer!
I'm with you Oldtimer. . .Given the swiftness of that rotating chainsaw
blade, and the instability of the swaying branches, I would never want
any part of those acrobatics. I imagine it to be a recipe for
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I would say especially not from a ladder. All good arborists have and
can use a rope and saddle. Ladders move unexpectedly, more so on
uneven ground , and the results are often disastrous. A properly
secured arborist might swing a bit when something moves (and something
_will_ move when a large branch is removed) but won't fall and won't
be underneath the falling branch. I'm a DIY'er myself in many cases,
but I don't recommend amateur tree pruning.
DISCLAIMER: I am a professional arborist. I stand to benefit from
having people follow the above advice. But I also have seen the
results of amateur pruning, and feel well qualified to say, most
amateurs and their trees will also benefit from following the above
But if you want to learn more about proper pruning practices (either
because you are stubborn or you want to develop a list of questions
for potential hirees), visit www.treesaregood.com
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I have seen arborists working in trees with ropes and saddles, and it is
quite a sight to see. It can be like watching a ballet. And it ought to
be obvious to anyone that the guys up in the tree didn't just wake up
that morning, and decide they were good enough to do that.
It's not just a trade. It's a professional craft that takes a lot of
judgment, skill, knowledge, and practice. Not to mention physical
agility. Yet still accidents happen.
I don't think you really need to make that disclaimer any more than a
thorasic surgeon needs a disclaimer when discouraging do-it-yourself
But you also touch on another point: Even if the armature
do-it-yourselfer manages to complete the job without hurting themselves,
that doesn't mean that they did the job right. The tree may be damaged,
and be in an even greater need of a professional trimming than it was
before the armature hacked away at it.
It's one thing to be an armature gardener. It's quite another thing to
be an armature arborist.
I'm not an arborist. But I have the highest level of respect for
arborists. You don't need to apologize through a disclaimer for being
one. People who don't think they can wake-up one day and do your job are
the ones who need to apologize... although some might not do so even as
they lay in the hospital with one less arm than when they woke-up that
The tree may also end looking just plain ugly, and you can't do anything
about it until it's had several years' worth of growth. I've looked at
plenty of books which diagram ways of doing cosmetic shaping of various tree
types. I've taken those books outside, looked at similar trees, and my first
thought has usually been "Go get the phone book". Luckily, years ago,
someone recommended a wizard of a tree guy. He walks 1/2 a block away to
look at some trees from a distance before touching them.
Yep, just like when Asplundht or Davey Tree or any one of the tree
utility companies come through after being hired by power copmpanies
to "trim" trees on the right of ways....everything is a butch cut or
scalp job......and if they don;t die right out, they take years to
recover and start looking half decent again.
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:23:20 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
At a friend's house, they hacked the tops off 5 large pine trees. Talk about
having absolutely zip for tree knowledge. That blunder ended up costing the
company many thousands of dollars. The friend didn't even have to take them
to court. Three supervisors stopped by, took a look, and said "Oh shit. Just
get them replaced and send us the bill". Do you know what it costs to
install trees as big as the Christmas tree at Rockefeller Center? :-)
Its not hard to use rope and saddle to work trees. I lkearned from the
fella who is probabaly the best dang arborist / tree climber in the
world, Tom Dunlap. If properly tied in, the most yur gonna fall is no
more than 12 inches or so, but odds are its rare to evcer find a lot
of arborist tied in properly with all the slack removed, cept the
amount needed to work. Taking limbs out of trees way up there is a
iece of cake , and certianly not hard, but it does come with a price
when yu figure in what it cost that arborist for
insurance/bonding/equipment/ and a while host of other
expenses.......While I do not do it for a living, I am well versed in
ropes and climbing as well as arborist work......and do not recomend
anyone without proper instruction and proper equipment to even attempt
to use ropes and harness they may find around to climb trees......The
ropes are not the typical rapelling grade or rock climbing grade, they
are an arborist grade and for good reason.........same for harness
(Sadle)........Spikes used only for complete tree removals, as all
they do is injure a tree...but then if yur not caring thats business
for later date. I learned to do the work since I have over 500 acres
and lots of huge tall oaks and pines and I enjoy going out after
hurricanes and helpong where I can help and make a few extra bucks
here and there, but its not what I do or really would want to do for a
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