One of my San Marzano tomatoes has different leaves , heart shaped rather
than lobed like all the rest . Wonder what it'll grow ? Guess I'll just have
to wait and see ... I have that seedling marked , and plan to keep track of
where it gets planted .
Pretty much everything has come up now except the anaheims and jalapenos ,
but they'll get there . Some of the tomatoes are almost 4" tall now .
Hopefully I can get to the end of February before I have to go to the 4"
pots . By then I'll have my "little greenhouse" built onto the south side
of the house and will have room for them .
Could be a sport or even something weird, happens from time to time. Our
little tomatoes are about three inches tall now, will be planting out
soon. Temperature here at 1453 was 82F, nice sunshine, light wind out of
the north,forecast is more of the same this week. Should be planting out
by mid-February or, at the latest, March 1.
Still harvesting winter crops but they will start seed stalks with all
the heat soon. Still lots of beets, cabbage, etc. may have to offer some
to neighbors as the kids, etc. are getting tired of it. Some of the
grands would rather eat at Mickey D's rather than out of our garden.
Young people, huff da!
that is part of the fun of gardening. :)
i've never tried to sprout pepper seeds
in warm water, but i wonder if that would
work, an airstone, small aquarium heater
and a close eye on the water quality. hmm...
wish i had more space for playing here.....
there's a mosquito buzzing around. must
be a male, it's not biting.
You and George both used the term "sport" . I've heard the term , but am
unsure of it's meaning . These were all open pollinated seeds I got on the
internet and I have been very pleased with the germination rates , easily
99% in the ones i got .
It'd be nice I guess if this were a throwback . It'll be planted and
monitored , it's got me curiouser and more curiouser !
A sport is a natural hybrid, one that mankind didn't breed to be
different. Occurs frequently in nature. When I was hybridizing chile
plants I would occasionally get a plant that was not like the parent
plants in any way. Sometimes they worked out fine sometimes they were
totally useless. Ma Nature works in mysterious ways to confuse humans. I
think it may be deliberate. <G>
Stay curious and you might find the latest high dollar plant for the
whole world. When early man first began actually planting wild seed to
grow for food he or she also started manipulating the plants to get
better yield, taste, etc. It ain't over yet.
That isn't my understanding of the term. You can get sports on only one
part of a plant, say one branch, which says to me it is a spontaneous
mutation that has happened during the growth of the plant affecting the
cells descended from that mutant but not the rest. A wild hybrid would
affect the genes of the whole plant not just part.
I've read the other replies in the thread, (and certainly agree that
it's possible that it could be a sport - but it could also be some other
things) but at 4 inches high, that is still a fairly tiny tomato plant.
How sure are you that this tiny tom. has yet developed it's proper
leaves as opposed to possibly more juvenile leaves?
I think I'll do a bit of a quibble about that, but only a minor one
because of a recent seedling example I seem to recall that I had.
Since I can't now remember which seeds I was raising and why I noted it
at the time, or even that I gave it more of a thought than a glancing
"That's a bit odd" in passing, then I do think it might be possible for
the seedling to still come good and be what it's supposed to be.
Sorry, I know that doesn't make a lot of sense, but I'm pretty sure I
had a similar "problem" that turned out not to be a problem with some
seeds I was raising recently.
On that strongly stated stance, I'll pop back into my box and close the
That sounds pretty normal for a given package of seeds.
Several years ago my gave up on buying packages of Blue Lake pole green
bean seed. Usually 3 out of 8 plants would be some other kind of bean.
So now we let some of the pods mature and save their seeds for next year.
Last year we planted acorn squash seeds. Pulled all but two. One turned
out to be cross with a pumpkin. Huge acorn squash that were hollow and
tasted like pumpkin. Deer got all the rest.
Each seed in a tomato is from a different particle of pollen on the
mother flower. You never know where the insect has been before it got to
the flower that was the source of your seed.
My wife has some tomato plants germinated and a couple of egg plants.
Still 2 months away from when we can work the garden and plant the early
stuff here in the Central Oregon desert.
Did you get my email relating to the Coombs ferry on the White river in
i've never had that poor of results from
seed packages of any kind. i don't buy too many
each season so perhaps i avoid it that ways.
last year the thick podded snap peas were
not very good for germination, but a few did
come up, and then got repeatedly eaten by the
woodchucks, so i will have to buy those again
this year to try again.
my eating bean varieties are wax and several
types of green, but here or there within them
there will be a reversion to another type (bush
bean that ends up growing into a vine, pod is
stringy, pod is wrong color or shape, beans when
shelled are obviously not true to type).
i try to keep the fresh eating varieties in
their own patches separate from the other shelling
or dry beans that i grow. it doesn't always work
as the bees are doing their thing, but it does
at the moment i have more varieties and cross-
breeds than i'll ever be able to grow out and
test. my classification and sorting work is at
a stall for a while. for each named variety that
i used to have i've now got a half dozen to a few
dozen variants/cross-breeds. it's interesting to
see what i think is going on and then try to grow
them out and see if the cross-breed will grow true
to the new pattern, shape, size, color, texture,
form, habit, ...
i need a lot more room. :)
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