I am on a low carb high fat "paleo diet". In the front yard, we have a
concrete retaining wall that is a boundary of our land. Beyond the
retaining wall, 3 feet lower, is a public sidewalk. I rented a monster
tiller recently, and tilled a 24" strip of land immediately adjacent
to the retaining wall. (did a lot of other tilling to plant a lawn
My desire is to plant some pretty, high fat, low carb, edible plants
that are not grains.
I live in Zone 5 (N Illinois).
One plant that I can think of is sunflowers. Maybe I will throw some
corn into it, for looks and for other members of my family, but I am
looking for other suggestions.
I live smack in the middle of the desert in the southwest US.. I had spinach
in my garden very early this past spring.. it's a great cool weather plant.
I didn't water it any more than my other veggies, which is about every other
day when I walk around with the hose.. I currently still have tomatoes,
several kinds of chiles, cucumbers and planted my fall crop of spinach just
last weekend. Also have tons of various herbs. Cooler weather can usually
help deal somewhat with watering issues.
Besides avocado or nut trees... very few plants bear high fat edibles.
Since it's already Fall... you have all winter to peruse the garden
catalogs (a fun thing) and decide what to plant come spring.
That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may also die
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc., before the next
year is up.
Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.
Bill, I am not looking to lose weight. I lost weight last year and
kept it off, by eating a moderate carb diet, plenty of meat, eggs etc,
about 25% of calories from carbs, calorie controlled.
I switched to low carb diet this year to make weight maintenance
Alright, anyhow, if we set this issue aside, do you have any garden
suggestions in response to my question that Iposted oroginally?
| That's a foolish diet, you may lose weight for a while, but you may
| also die from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack, etc.,
| before the next year is up.
| Low carb diet is nothing but a scam.
Please cite the research to back up your claims.
Oh that;s right, you can't -- because it's purely fiction!
There is plenty of research to back up my claim, problem is that fat people
won't believe it. Being fat is being lazy and being lazy means that you are
looking for a panacea.
You can lose weight with any diet, but to lose weight with high fat, low
carbs permanently, you have to die, and die you will, as Dr. Atkins did at
258 lbs with conditions arising from his cardiomyopathy, a lack of blood
The Bottom Line
Although short-range studies have found that low-carbohydrate diets can
produce weight loss, no study has demonstrated that such diets are safe or
effective for long-term use [11-14,22,23]. Atkins advocated his diet for
more than 30 years and stated that more than 60,000 patients treated at his
center had used his diet as their primary protocol. However, he never
published any study in which people who used his program were monitored over
a period of several years. The recent popularity of low-carbohydrate diets
has encouraged food companies to market low-carbohydrate foods for people
who want to "watch their carbs." Most of these foods are much higher in fat
than the foods they are designed to replace. I believe that "low-carb"
advertising is encouraging both dieters and nondieters to eat high-fat
foods, which is exactly the opposite of what medical and nutrition
authorities have been urging for decades. Following a low-carbohydrate diet
under medical supervision may make sense for some people, but a
population-wide increase in fat consumption is a recipe for disaster.
For Additional Information
a.. American Heart Association Statement on High Protein Diets
b.. atkinsfacts.org: Archive of documents about the Atkins diet
That explains it Bill! Thanks for the info.
I ate a low carb peanut butter sandwich last year and I immediately died
from clogged arteries, cancer, stroke, heart attack etc., just as you
said. Luckily I had my reincarnation insurance paid up, wasn't it?
You are a very useful guy to have around Bill. Your in-depth knowledge
and incredible insight into scams and human nutrition is something that
can only be admired.
I guess that avocados are poison eh Bill? What with the high fat, low
carbs. Maybe they are Saddam's secret weapons of mass destruction? They
are a sort of drab military green after all. Do you think that someone
should whisper into Bush's ear?
What do you suggest as a good diet Bill?
It is obvious that you personally are thriving amazingly well on BS, but
for those of us with a little more taste and discernment, coupled with
a lack of access to fresh bovine created food sources, what would be a
To reply, please include the letters DNF anywhere in the subject line.
A fool you are! LOL
I have no problem with you believing in a high fat, low carb diet, I find
the planet overpopulated with fatso's anyway.
The nutrition committee of the American Heart Association has issued a
science advisory warning that high-protein diets have not been proven
effective and pose health risks. The report covered the Atkins, Zone,
Protein Power, Sugar Busters, and Stillman diets. The committee stated:
a.. Such diets may produce short-term weight loss through dehydration.
b.. Weight loss may also occur through caloric restriction resulting from
the fact that the diets are relatively unpalatable.
c.. The high fat content may be harmful to the cardiovascular system in
the long run.
d.. Any improvement in blood cholesterol levels and insulin management
would be due to weight loss, not the change in composition.
e.. A very high-protein diet is especially risky for patients with
diabetes because it can speed the progression of diabetic kidney disease
Bill, do you realize how hysterically funny your post is?!
| a.. Such diets may produce short-term weight loss through
Geez, I've lost 55 pounds of water so far! LMAO!
b.. Weight loss may also occur through caloric
| restriction resulting from the fact that the diets are relatively
Yup, bacon,eggs, cheese, steaks, and vegetables are so much more unpalatable
that dry toast and rice cakes!
*wiping eyes* Stop! My sides hurt too much from laughing!
c.. The high fat content may be harmful to the
| cardiovascular system in the long run.
Heeheeheeheheehee. My total cholesterol dropped from 232 to 187, blood
pressure to 120/70, and tricglycerides from 635 to 217 on Atkins. Which is
supposed to hurt my CV systemmore: the lower blood pressure, the low
ercholesterol or the lower triglycerides>?? ROFLMAO!
| d.. Any improvement in blood cholesterol levels and insulin
| management would be due to weight loss, not the change in composition.
Um, isn't that the point?
| e.. A very high-protein diet is especially risky for patients with
| diabetes because it can speed the progression of diabetic kidney
| disease .
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one!
Let's see, I have to take no medication for my T2 diabetes because its';s
controlled completely with my low-carb diet. My blood glucose is
consistently normal. High blood sugars cause kidney disease. Guess you
lose this one too!
You're the quack. Get educated.
Oh wait. My guess is that you're either PETA or PCRM, both with a vested
interest in not wanting people to eat meat. Bet that doesn't slant your
point of view, does it?
In a way I feel sorry for you, because you are so misinformed and stupid
enough to promote the tired old Lies that no one listens to any more. Maybe
you could switch careers and find some nice snake oil to sell?
Yeah, but geez, how much bacon and eggs and steak can you eat? At least
throw some fish and chicken in there. I have red meat once a week and
that's plenty fine.
Funny, but there are plenty of people from around the world that eat diets
high in carbohydrates that are not fat and have high life expectancies.
It's not the carbs killing you, it's the amount of calories you eat. Eat
less and you lose weight. Simple equation.
||| Bill, do you realize how hysterically funny your post is?!
||| Bill wrote:
|||| a.. Such diets may produce short-term weight loss through
||| Geez, I've lost 55 pounds of water so far! LMAO!
||| b.. Weight loss may also occur through caloric
|||| restriction resulting from the fact that the diets are relatively
||| Yup, bacon,eggs, cheese, steaks, and vegetables are so much more
|| Yeah, but geez, how much bacon and eggs and steak can you eat? At
|| least throw some fish and chicken in there. I have red meat once a
|| week and that's plenty fine.
I rarely eat bacon and steak and certainly eat less red meat than you and
I've been LCing for 3 years.
||| that dry toast and rice cakes!
||| *wiping eyes* Stop! My sides hurt too much from laughing!
|| Funny, but there are plenty of people from around the world that eat
|| diets high in carbohydrates that are not fat and have high life
|| expectancies. It's not the carbs killing you, it's the amount of
|| calories you eat. Eat less and you lose weight. Simple equation.
That is exactly what LC allows most people to do, eat less and lose weight.
Many people who eat diets high in carbs have BG swings that stimulate
appetite. Many of those people are very overweight and will stay that way
if the continue on a high carb diet.
Simple equations are all that folks with simple minds can handle. The real
world is often not so simple.
I see that reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.
Binge on donuts, cake, sweets and saturated fats, you get fat and die early.
Eat a balanced diet rich in carbohydrates, and good fats, live well.
And you prove your point, as you are simple and fell for a fad diet that
will kill you, no old age for you. :)
Don't feel sorry for me, you are the dumbass, trying to make valid research
seem like a joke, because you fell for the scam.
I did look at your pictures, the weight loose is awesome, but you can do
that on a balanced diet without putting your health at risk.
BTW who is that cow behind you in the first picture? LOL
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