Ground Beef Recall Expanded

With a little luck, I'll remember to email DH's cousin in Germany and ask her what it is and to bring some when she comes over in May.

Put me on the list for the extra chutney. ;) Cheryl

What do you do in the lab?

And there are cuts now that appear to invented in recent days. Tri-tip anyone

Mine brings wasabi to the rink - for a little fire in her belly. She loves sushi and will try nearly anything once. C

snipped-for-privacy@wi.rr.com wrote in news:470fde6c$0$1344$ snipped-for-privacy@reader.greatnowhere.com:

May I suggest a sock?

What Gina didnt say.... Taubes "cherry picked" his information. This is a SERIOUS when trying to prove the positive, but not when challenging "common knowledge". It was the exceptions to the theory the earth was at the center to the universe that brought that whole cockamamie theory crashing down.

It is bad bad bad when somebody has a conclusion already in mind and then goes looking for the bits and pieces that support their conclusion and ignore the bits that dont. This is what creationists do, it is also what opponents of global warming do.

It is a very fine line to wander trying to attack "common knowledge". It is best to start by carefully examining each paper for bias, who are the authors, who is putting up the money for the research, how well does the research follow the scientific methodology, etc.

It is good to look at the history of the causes of ulcers to see the natural history of a challenge to "common knowledge". It took a long time for the scientific and finally the medical community to accept that, yes, Virginia, bacteria does cause most ulcers. And this has been modified by the finding of a genetic trait that predisposes a big chunk of humans to the bacteria (type O blood group). Gone are the "stress", "diet", type A personality causes of ulcers. Only "aspirin etc." medications are another cause.

So while I laud Taubes for taking on the "common knowledge" I am sure no practicing scientist with their head screwed on tight would have done so unless they had a "death of their career wish". Did he go overboard? Yes, I am sure he did (I havent read the book yet). Do I go overboard when presenting stuff? Yeah, but I am an iconoclast and I "spout" to shake people up and make em question their preconceived ideas.

Mostly the average Japanese never had enough food much less highly refined food. Traditional Eskimos and those who live in the high north, who mostly eat protein and fat dont have heart disease either. Nor do the French, who slather fat on everything but eat small amounts of food period.

I am c>Just call me sensitive but my recent exposure to the term "junk science"

And with a little luck you will remember to let us know what it is? ;-)

Ahhhh.......another chutney lover.

Since I am the only one who eats it, I always increase the hot pepper and use a hot madras curry I can get locally. Extra candied ginger too.

Charlie

Thanks for the yeast tip, I think I can get ale yeast close to here.

I know it doesn't taste like fresh. I've been a cider-head for a long time, both fresh and hard.

A sweet hard cider, IMO, does go well with fresh *homemade* donuts.

Give it a try sometime. :-)

Charlie

Drool dripping on to keyboard...

Local orchard was frying up donuts as I waked into buy my 1/2 peck for the week. So dang good

Drool dripping on to keyboard too...

Charlie

Charlie wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

if you're in the US, you should be able to find a nice selection of yeasts at a local homebrew shop. i'm not going to pick through headers to see where you're from ;) otherwise, mailorder is an option. one of next year's projects is a brewer's & dyer's garden, & i may try raising yeasts. we do a little saving of certain yeasts now, but it's a bit tricky.

ok. some people don't understand cider isn't apple juice ;)

they'd have to be homemade here. we have eliminated anything with high fructose corn syrup... Tom went from 3 12 packs of Coke/week to none because we can't get it with sugar. Coke corporate told us it was up to the individual bottling plants to use sugar of HFCS... so we're brewing sodapop too...

gotta get some apples first. lee

My headers don't reveal much, but yeah, I'm in the us, northern Missouri. I found a shop that I will visit when I pry my butt outta here, as I told Ann

Nice project.

They don't know what they be missin'! Cider needs to be fresh, unpastuerized, and the drops don't hurt a thing, add character, perhaps. There is a couple locally who press a fair amount every year, the real deal.

High fructose corn syrup may well be one of the most prevalent and dangerous food additives around. It is in *everything* it seems. One of the people we support has food allergies, corn being amongst them, and corn syrup sometimes triggers hives as well. It's a bitch.

Care Charlie

I was serious.

On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:45:07 -0700, Father Haskell perhaps wrote or was it Ferd?:

Oopsie!

This is why I eat many small meals. In the morning I eat a quality oatmeal and add much more water than necessary to really plump it up and I add flaxseeds to it during the last several minutes of cooking. About two hours later, fruit, then a yogurt etc. Fats are also vital in helping keep the full feeling, but psychologically, it is not healthy to need to feel satiated all the time. Some tolerance of hunger is actually healthy and helps with digestion. It's always better to eat when hungry, even if that means ten times a day. As long as the caloric intake is a healthy amount for you weight and body it's prefectly fine.

Deepak Ch>1/3 of Americans have this "eat carb, spike insulin, eat more carb" thing. I

Sunnycrest was making them from scratch!

Cheryl Isaak wrote in news:C33620A3.6F570% snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net:

not for doughnuts, to make cider :) which, of course, Sunnycrest was making from scratch too. do they sell unpasturized cider? the place i usually get unpasturized cider (& drops) is up for sale. it has good potential, but the current owners were clueless Californians that bought the property, subdivided off lots, built some yuppie houses, & played at the orchard business. it's down to 20 acres, the trees haven't been properly pruned in 4 years (since they bought it) & the house has been redone to excess... the house, store & orchard are for sale at $650k, which is pretty 'cheap' for the area (and less than they paid, but it had a lot more land then), but the taxes are over $11k/year (nice views & i suspect he doesn't know about current use credits). it's a divorce situation. apples didn't make the money they were accustomed to... & the building business is bust here. he's a nice guy. i could probably actually teach him how to run a profitable orchard, but i suspect the other half wants a house sale settlement. lee