Did I hear of this or did I just dream it,,If bark is cut all the way round
the trunk and a gap left does this kill the tree and if so what would be the
effect on the roots.?Would the roots die as well? Thanks for any advice on
The "live" part of a normal tree is the bark. That's where most of the
activity of the tree takes place and to ring the tree completely will
be the equivalent of cutting a humans throat. Instant death.
Thanks for advice.My problem is that I have two trees close to my house and
drains and I would like to cut them down but a certain lady will not hear of
it so I may have to resort to desperate measures.Was thinking that if the
leaves started curling up she may agree with me.;-)
Seriously here - if you are on clay-type soil, be careful about resorting
to 'desperate measures'.
If you 'kill' or cut them down 'quickly', then because the trees are not
taking up large quantities of ground water, this will expand the clay soil
and cause 'ground-heave' which could severely damage the house foundations.
If this is the case, just lop them down a bit at the time over several
seasons - the upshot of this is that SWMBO may not notice the long term
'disappearing act' - especially if you can do the dirty deed whilst she was
out of the way :-)
The 'good-news' is that if the trees are fairly small and not of something
like the dreaded Weeping Willow, then you should be ok.
As a matter of interest, I also have a SWMBO who loves trees and I fully
understand the problem you have!
Sodium chlorate AKA weed killer and you can buy it at the pound shop. Make
the mix up when she is not in and it is wet on the ground, pour the whole
mixture against the root of the tree and leaves will turn brown next month.
... negotiate rather than taking undemocratic, unilateral action?
Perhaps plant replacement trees further from the house? Or perhaps help
plant trees to replace the ones you want to cut down?
I have had similar problems in that my tiny garden seems to have been
planted by idiots who gave no thought to the ultimate size that everything
would grow to. I've already cut down at least five trees / oversize bushes,
and in mid summer it still gets claustrophobic and barely enough light
reaches ground level. (I've been helping the Woodland Trust buy land for
new woods for a number of years, so hopefully I've many times more than
negated this part of my ecological footprint)
I would also second the poster who warned about changing the status quo.
Trees evaporate huge, significant quantities of water, and if these are
biggish then changing the status quo by cutting them down might change the
whole hydrology of the soil near your house, and you might indeed cause the
ground to heave over a number of years, and/or create damp problems. Only
cut them down if they are already obviously damaging the house, and even
then I would recommend taking expert advice beforehand.
Leaves are a particular problem if your house is old enough to have exterior
drains and gullies. You need to:
1) Make covers for them, so that leaves can't get into them so easily in
the first place. We made them out of exterior ply offcuts, etc, and
creosoted them (but I think creosote has been unavailable for some years as
it was found to be carcinogenic, use whatever the modern equivalent is).
You'll need a jigsaw to cut closely around where the drain pipes go through,
and they need to be heavy enough to avoid being blown off, or perhaps weigh
them down with a brick or some such. Clear the gullies and drains out
completely before finally putting the covers in place.
2) I've seen balls of small mesh chicken wire sitting in gutters at the
top of downpipes to help stop leaves getting into the downpipes and gullies
from the guttering, but I would imagine there's also the possibility of the
chicken wire gradually working into the downpipe, particularly as it rusts
and weakens, and causing an even worse problem. Perhaps worth a try if you
can guarantee that they'll stay in place - better to have an overflowing
gutter full of leaves that you can remove easily (a trowel is the ideal
shape) than a blocked downpipe that you have to dismantle to clear,
particularly if it's an old-fashioned cast one.
3) If you can without causing a lot of damage to the trees, selectively
prune branches that are causing particular problems by, say, touching the
house and causing damp, or dropping a lot of leaves into a critical piece of
4) Annually, when all the leaves are off the trees at the end of Autumn,
make a point of checking all the guttering (including that chicken wire is
not getting too rusty to able to resist going into the down pipes) and
gullies. Pay particular attention to lead gullies between two rooves -
access to these can often be difficult, so they get overlooked, and can be a
common source of severe problems (particularly in old neglected buildings,
as you will recall if you have watched any of the Restoration series)
5) Don't park you car underneath them, or you'll be visiting the car wash
frequently! And don't pitch a tent underneath trees!
A couple of things - if the trees are not on your land thats criminal
damage ..... you have been warned!!! If they are on public land and
are causing an issue with drains etc you can get the council to remove
them as they will be responsible.
The second is that if there are Tree Protection Orders on them OR you
live in a conservation area then you need special permission to touch
:-) I like it.Strange though how things happen.My drain was blocked
today.nothing to do with the trees,and cleared by Dynarod staff.I asked the
man in charge if he thought the trees would cause a problem in future and he
does not think so,therefore the trees have got a reprieve for the time being
and I will blame him if I get a blockage Lol
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