Could Someone Possibly Direct In Right Direction Please ?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

All the CRTs I've seen have pins on the end of the neck to connect to which are nothing like a SCART. A CRT *TV set* may well have a SCART. If new enough.

Think that's what was meant.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

That is the original spec. However, some also allow S-Video (common) and or components (not so common).

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Not so. There would be no point in it having 21 pins if this were the case.

It was originally the French Peritel connector. This specified RGB.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

They don't, Dave. This Acorn can produce them, but it's a long time since I've had a monitor that will accept them. I do have a TV with a VGA input that will, though.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I've never come across a Freeview box that doesn't provide RGB. Nor have I seen one with component. But regardless of that modern monitors don't work with TV signals.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Computer monitors won't work at TV resolution and refresh rates these days. They need a convertor box to do so - and these ain't cheap for a half decent one. However, you can get TVs that will accept a computer signal.

[Brian Gregory [UK]]

Agreed. A computer monitor is exceedingly unlikely to accept 576i RGB.

[Brian Gregory [UK]]

I've owned three Freeview boxes and they can all output RGB. It'd be stupid not to, you'd be losing almost all the improved picture quality possible with digital TV.

[mm0fmf]

You need to become friendly with the council staff at the site. As long as you don't take anything they want, they will magically turn a blind eye when they know you.

[Brian Gregory [UK]]

You wouldn't choose that option unless you had the appropriate lead and display device to feed the component video in to.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I dunno what the bodge is for component over SCART. Does is use a different voltage etc one of the control circuits to switch the set to components? And can you have HD via this?

[Ian Jackson]

In message , "Brian Gregory [UK]" writes

My understanding is that most set-top boxes, recorders and the like, if they have a SCART socket, put out at least composite video, and (of course) *usually* also RGB. On my three tellies, for some unknown reason, composite is better than RGB.

[Brian Gregory [UK]]

Agreed.

Though VHS VCRs don't usually offer RGB out at all even if they use SCART connectors.

That's a little odd. I do get the impression that modern TVs are better at dealing with composite than in the past.

You do need a nice thick SCART lead to avoid odd crosstalk and mismatch effects spoiling the RGB but it's not usually a big problem on leads of normal length, say up to around 2 metres.

If it was just one TV I'd say that it probably just had a poor RGB input circuit.

[Java Jive]

However, many will output S-Video which is of intermediate quality, but at least better then Composite Video.

I suspect this comes down to what he means by 'better'.

IMV, the colours from Composite tend to be garish, RGB looks more 'natural'*. But by far the worst thing about CV on all my TVs is the dot-crawl artifacts, which are there on both the CRT and the LCDs, but are more noticeable on the latter, because of their better resolution.

* I tend to find the same thing with CRTs generally (garish) and LCDs (natural), and between glossy photographs (garish) and matt finish (natural), and between a woman with make-up (garish and unhuman, like a doll off a factory production line) and one without (much more attractive). Yet, I know from working in the dim and distant past in a Photo Lab that most people prefer glossy photos, we've all heard so much from CRT die-hards in other newsgroups that I hesitate to risk introducing another flame war between the two technologies, and most women wear make-up, which they presumably wouldn't do if enough men expressed a preference against it.

I guess it takes all sorts ...

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Any standard VHS output S-Video - or only S-VHS machines? S-VHS machines sort of introduced this in the UK, although it's used by non recorders too now.

Philips once made an ordinary VHS with RGB out. Totally pointless.

[the_constructor]

Well I would just like to thank everyone for their comments on this topic. It is always refreshing to start a topic and have so many participate. Looks like I shall have to hunt around for a small portable TV instead of using the PC monitor. Thanks everyone Kindest regards,

Jim

[Dave Plowman (News)]

I'd say a 'small portable TV' is less likely to have a VGA input. Keep an eye on CPC, Aldi, etc for suitable ones at a good price.

I have a 19" DGM bought from CPC for a bargain price - about the same as a PC monitor - which lives above the workbench. Fed off a VGA DA with the computer output - handy for circuit diagrams etc. Or as a TV, or test monitor when fixing things. It was cheap because it only has an analogue tuner. But works OK otherwise.

[Jeff Gaines]

There's one recently posted in uk.adverts.computer, £50 asking price, has Freeview and takes a variety of inputs.

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[Andy Champ]

If you don't mind having a CRT they regularly appear on Freegle / Freecycle.

For nothing.

Andy

[Dave Plowman (News)]

A CRT TV with a VGA input?