And very expensive, prohibitively so.
There's got to be another way.
For some time now I've been thinking of a way to turn a tree into a
A tree is a giant solar collector with thousands of *directional*
leaves doing the collecting.
From the solar that is collected by the leaves a process known as
photosynthesis occurs which converts the solar into chlorophyll which
then feeds the tree producing growth. We have 10,000 trees on our
property, many of them in the 60 to 80 foot tall range and if each was
tied together in a series and the photosynthesis process converted
into a means of producing power without adversely effecting the tree,
This *conversion* type process has been employed in many other types
of technology throughout history and I see no reason why it couldn't
be done again. (wood, converted to steam, which is then used to
produce pressure that moves steel parts = steam engine, or electricity
is converted into a wave which is then cast out into the sky and
captured at another location becomes a radio transmission). Conversion
is the key. The power is already there but not in a form that can
easily be used. A conversion process must be discovered. The movement
of the ocean tides is another method ready to be exploited.
Huh? I can't imagine anything cheaper. Steam spins an axle, any one
of several different ways, and the axle turns a motor. The motor is
now a generator. It's not elegant, but it'll work, and we're talking
emergency times, make anything on hand into what you need.
I'm not talking about the generator. Hell, all motors are generators,
I'm talking about the steam engine.
I delved into this a few months ago and they ain't cheap, not by a
The only conclusion I could come to is to keep my eyes peeled around
here for an old broken down engine and see if I can purchase it and
then rebuild it, the old fashioned way. In the spring they have an
annual antique tractor and engine show that comes to town and I'll be
perusing it a little deeper next year.
Ken and I talked about this a lot in email.
He's good for bouncing ideas off of.
If a solar EMP, or nuclear for that matter, fries circuits, it'll fry
your backup system as well unless it is shielded. If you're serious
about backing up your energy supply, high tech is definitely not the
way to go unless you're playing a dilettante's game. In many ways it
would be easier to have smaller and/or portable sources of energy. If
you want to work in the solar or wind, same idea with the motor in
or you could use wind instead of steam, etc.
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:03:11 -0700 (PDT), "Ken S. Tucker"
Since I grew up on a farm "pre-grid" with electricity, perhaps I can shed some
light on how it's done.
We had a "Windcharger", made in Sioux City, Iowa and a (General Motors) Delco
Gasoline engined Generator that maintained two 32 volt batteries (a lead
acid battery in the basement and an "Edison" battery in the (detached)
garage/shop building. The Edison battery was second hand former railroad
signal battery. The Windcharger did a good enough job maintaining the batteries
that we could go for about 3 days without any wind before we had to
start up the gas generator. Our kitchen range and (absorption type)
refrigerator were propane fueled. Central heat was a hand fired coal furnace
with gravity circulation. Bedrooms were unheated.
I should also qualify this as in the "pre-TV", pre Air Conditioner, and
It is unfortunate that the greedy utility companies have pretty much run 32 VDC
appliance and light bulb manufacture out of business.
I have spent winters "off the grid" living in a travel trailer with solar panels
on the roof to maintain 12 volt batteries and a small gas powered 2KW
generator for occasional 120 v loads. Cooking and Refrigerator were propane
Take a good look at RVs that are equipped for "off grid" boon dock living,
rescale living areas for these principals and adopt their appliances, and I
believe one can live quite comfortably off the grid.
Subterranean cistern, 20'x20'x10' deep, 8' underground, will stay 36
degrees all year long.
That's refrigerator temperature.
Copper coils at the bottom of the cistern would cycle oil underground
via solar pump/12v battery backup to the refrigerator in the house.
Actually, its been acting exactly as it has been since at least the
16th century when they first started keeping track of this stuff.
There are a number of different cycles the sun goes through with each
named things like the current cycle which is Wolf. There is a large
400 year cycle and then many subset cycles down to 11 years in
The name is eluding me at the moment but I told you about it awhile
back - the net/shield that you can make from fine copper wire screen
to protect your sensitive electronics. It can even be adapted to your
vehicle though its rather complex. It was in the email that also
mentioned a colloidal silver generator.
Interesting. You saw them with your own eyes?
Its being said that all the big transformers are FOREIGN made and will
take 2 years or more to replace any that go down.
I see alternatives in my near future.
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