Hurricane-proof House

Sep 09, 2005 153 Replies

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In New Orleans, where being below sea level and inland from the Gulf of Mexico provides a lot of protection, this would be overkill, because the big danger was and is flooding from broken or overtopped levees, not direct storm surge. A building that can withstand high winds isn't the real challenge: it's the massive force of MOVING water that is the killer. The biggest problem with flooding (other than surviving it) is the major mold and mildew problem that will persist for months or years afterward if the materials are at all water absorbent.

And on the coast, directly exposed to the full force of combined storm surge and waves, it wouldn't be nearly enough, unless it really were just a small storm shelter within a larger building, and even then there are never guarantees. Storm surge combined with large waves can shatter even a heavy concrete foundation if it is undercut, and the undercut is why the pilings are there. So you would need a lot more pilings than just the four corners, unless it were a small (e.g. one room) shelter.

The "hurricane proof house" near Pensacola is an effort to design just such a home, but it is far from "hurricane proof". "Hurricane resistant" is a much better description. See

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for some discussion of how much repair the $800,000 "hurricane proof" house needed after being near the most destructive part of Ivan. The "before" images are at
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Keep in mind that the stairs and the concrete slab that were designed to break away become battering rams when they wash up against someone else's "hurricane proof" home.

- Bob

I nominate you both as the most retarded posters to a thread ever.

Matt

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You would have to build to survive the wind, the flood water, the wind-caused waves in the water (In Katrina-NOLA, the wind had subsided before water came in; this may not be the case in the future), and the impacts of debris.

You need to anticipate looters and unwanted government interference.

The house would have independent utilities, communication, and supplies. And the house would need a secure means of transportation for escape if necessary.

How should this house be built and what should it have?

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BETTER answer.... Just build it in Canada...we have plenty of flood planes for the moronic and a well established reputation for helping our neighbours as opposed to using high powered fire arms to solve all our problems.

Regards,

Doug

Poland? ;)

nice catch, though.

| How should this house be built and what should it have?

Solid but light. Wheels.

[and anti-troll protection]

-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA

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I know you are butt what am I????

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If you have power, you can use an electric toilet..

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If not, you could use some form of camp toilet, with collection bags, and store them in a larger drum when full.

You'll want a holding tank and filtering system for showers, etc using recycled water. maybe some form of solar heating? You'll also want a storage system for potable water.

Use several smaller generators that can be synced together to form a larger one if needed. Propane/natural gas provides the best long term storage, but diesel is easier to resupply, and can be hauled in drums, or jerrycans. Make sure you have a stock of suitable containers to transfer fuel. Gasoline is not a good choice for long term storage.

A storage battery/inverter system could also be used to reduce generator run times, possibly with photovoltaics, although the survivability of photovoltaics in the storm is highly questionable.

Build it on a big mound of packed dirt with pilings to hold it all in place. Make the rest of the structural parts except doors and windows of heavily reinforced concrete.

Stretch

Nah. Robin's butt. Just ask Ms Hartl and Mr Lee. j4

I was just wondering about how to reinforce the front door so the cops couldn't kick it open -- even with that little battering ram they use, unless they want to keep pounding on it for 20 minutes. I think the door frame and the latch are probably more important than the actual door. Of course, it would have to have a chain so you could crack it open to talk to people on the other side if you wanted to. 5/16" safety chain? If they tried to kick it in while the door was cracked, it would bounce shut (breaking someone's foot, hopefully) and you could latch the bolt if you were fast.

An antique-looking 4 inch cannon in the front room would make a great conversation piece. Hopefully no one would ever have to find out that it was real and loaded with grapeshot.

Wood-frame construction (except for the heavy steel door frames) with lots of metal ties to hold the roof joists to the wall plates, and steel siding.

No basement, obviously.

Heavy full-sized shutters to cover the windows.

Small generator and transfer switch.

Best regards, Bob

How did the narrator know that?

-Bob

Are you sure you would trust an *army* surplus submarine?

-Bob

Not sure, I suppose you could ask him. As I remember he was as scientist stationed down there. Good enough for me. My guess would be carbon dating.

You had a shot up until the "unwanted government interference". There is nothing that can be built to stand up or resist that.

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Easy, he counted the rings. ;-)

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Roughly 70%.

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Why?

Don't live there, don't build there. You're an idiot if you do.

You're welcome. One of the benefits of reading Popular Mechanics as a kid 50 years ago.

Easy.... Find a Mountain in the Rockies build a deep shaft........ Building in New Orleans disregards your own concerns. You can't account for all the possibilities of a Hurricane it's to independent and random, best you can do is work from historical data. By it's own design if a storm impacted the area, you would become an oasis, and if offering no assistance most likely you will simply be destroyed using most readily a flammable liquid.

I see you account for your own failure? And the house would need a secure means of transportation for escape if necessary. I'd say the best would be a hot air balloon..................

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