As my house projects progresses before I cover things (walls, slabs etc..) I
would like to keep a record of where things are.
I already have a floor plan in a DGN file inside MicroStation that I am
working on, and all my framing plans are done that way.
Now that I have done some major relocation of drains etc...what is the best
way to add that detail into CAD?
I am thinking of just getting up to a high ladder and take a picture from
high up, then import the image into CAD, find two known points (room
corners) and scale/move the image to the right location in relation to the
my floor plan, and simply sketch in the drainsand electrical system, won't
be accurate but should be close enough for my use, beats measuring every end
of every pipe and elbows and fittings.
Is there an easier way?
It depends on your CAD package. I make drawings of
frequently-used components so I can bring them into plans.
(Libraries of the symbols and components you use may already be
available as add-ons for your CAD package). The "frequently-used"
part is important because I can draw the part once and re-use as
often as convenient.
I am using MicroStation. I don't mean the commonly used components like
fans, sink, WC, tub etc... those I have made cells (or ACAD blocks). I am
talking about the best way to draw in the "linework" for the drain lines or
electrical conduits. I don't plan on putting in the actual fittings and
elbows etc...for the drains.
I was going to measure off what the plumbers did when he reconfigured
everything, but now I think a photograph then reference it in to sketch over
seems to me the easiest way, if the photo can be taken with minimum
If this might have some bearing on what you're looking for, I'd suggest
considering the free/libre Panotools suite that includes modules for
image-stitching; parallax, lense and perspective-distortion and
chromatic-aberration correction, and much more.
I've seen some very impressive results.
To start, I'd suggest the main wiki:
yes I am taking lots of picture on each stage of the project.
I think I have enough pictures that I can do a drill down - if I ever sell
this house I can set up a floor plan when the potential buyers look at a
room, then zoom in they see the tile on the floor, further zoom shows the
slab behind it, then the slab removed showing the compacted sand, then the
PVC drains...may freak people out lol.
In the 60's we were remodeling a Cambridge private school. When some books
were being removed from a bookcase, the case suddenly opened, inside was a
room about 8x8, with a chest. In the chest was only a set of original
I agree. When we were remodeling the Boston house we found a cylindrical
tin lunch pail in a wall with the very dried remains of a lunch. Still have
it. That house was built in 1859. When we added walls we put ours and the
kids names within the walls. Gives the place some history. My present house
has a closet door jamb with the heights of the family children from about
1900 to 1984.
I like stuff like that too...
This fantasy has cross my mind before of having the backs of one or two
of my teeth-- or something permanent even beyond my body, like in some
storage medium within a wall-- laser-engraved with a working model of my
DNA or whatever info that would be required.
Presumably if there was no blood-sample, future technology might still
be able to synthesize the DNA of a person from a good model.
Imagine being born and growing up to be told how you came into being...
that your father wasn't really your father and that your clone isn't
really your clone, but your design-blueprint of/from someone who lived
500 years ago. That you were essentially synthesized.
It might make for a cool sci-fi movie that dealt with the sensations,
complications, ethics and so forth behind that.
Esp. if one's parents are abusive a-holes. We hear all the pollyanna
stuff from these "family values" types, as though theer is not, was
never, will never be, parents who are littel more to their kids than rat
In the case of people who are chromosome donors and little (if anything)
else to their kids, what you say is precisely true.
But not in the case of good parents.
THat's a biggie, Don. FWLIW, in a sense, we all have to build out lives,
but some people stat with a good foundation, and som of us basicalyl get
a few crapped-up cinder blocks and not too much else. IOW, it is *all* a
building/growing process - so maybe you can take heart to some extent
from that...? I don't even know how to talk abotu such a situation in
"real" terms. It'd be like trying to limn an unseen river, bridge two
shores when each is hidden by forest and fog. All you can do is tart
with what is known to you, and build slowly, carefully corbelling to arch
the expanse of the unknown - that's all I can say, becasue that's all I
The house I am remodeling now, the previous owner left me a safe 36" wide
safe. No combinations, he is in a nursing home with his memory faded, I
have not yet attempted to open it, it's sitting in a corner. Every
contractor that came asked me what's in it and I told them I have no clue.
May be the blue prints are in it, 36" wide is perfect for D-size.
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