The U.S. Government Is Trying To Take Away Your Pocket Knives!

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He felt at the end that he was near the end of his life. To be able to get the gang members in jail he sacrificed himself, in full knowledge of what was going to happen. Nothing in that movie said that shooting was good. Standing up for oneself and others when being harassed or worse was all he did.
I sure hope that it will be a long time before we all need to carry concealed guns in order to feel safe.
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Han wrote:

I don't carry a concealed handgun to feel safe; I carry a concealed handgun so the goblins don't.
In the thirteen years I've carried a concealed handgun, I've felt it necessary to expose it three times.
Two of those were in Home Depot parking lots!
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I hope you live far away from 07410
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Han wrote:

Never had anything bigger than a pump pellet rifle for varmit control, but am considering a handgun because it may not be an option to legally buy one in the not so distant future. Also, while traveling in the 5th wheel and staying overnight in some [not] "protected" areas, it might be a good insurance policy. Just have to make sure I and SWMBO are trained so she doesn't confuse me with a bad guy...
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"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

Where is that coming from?
Maybe NRA propaganda?
Hand gun registration, background checks, yes.
Banning sale of hand guns, no.
The idea that if firearms are registered, the bad guys will know where to find and confiscate them is shear lunacy and more NRA hype.
There are far easier ways, which for obvious reasons, I'll not post on UseNet.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

I do know from several acquaintances that a common particular caliber of ammo seems to be very difficult to purchase - the shelves of suppliers being empty and no dates of when supplies might be available. No, not assault rifle ammo.
Some are wondering if disarming the public will be done by restricting ammunition purchases.
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Doug Winterburn wrote:

Doug, at this point the only way the government is going to get away with a handgun ban is with a Constitutional Amendment. They do not have the authority to ban handguns. That ship sailed last June.
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"Doug Winterburn" wrote:

The idea that disarming the general populace will allow the "Bad Guys" to take over the country.

Being a capitalist kind of guy, I've have tongue in cheek suggested that the way to get a handle on hand guns is to tax the ammunition at the rate of $10/cartridge.
It would certainly have an affect on ammunition availability as well as the hand gun violence here in L/A where on an average week, there will be 6-8 hand gun killings.
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Reloading.
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

Being a Socialist kind of guy, Senator Patrick Monyhan suggested much the same thing years ago. He said "We have a 200-year supply of guns on the street, but only a ten-year supply of ammunitition."
Your last statement kind of begs the question - the six to eight handgun killings per week in your town leaves out the criterium of whether the deceased needed killing.
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And in the UK, where strict gun laws are in place, you'd be hard pressed to count that many in a month throughout the entire country.
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Stuart wrote:

Don't credit the lack of guns. You probably don't have that many people that need killing.
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Stuart wrote:

I read something years ago about a former head of Scotland Yard testifying before a Parliamentary committee. When asked what effect Britain's strict gun laws had on criminals getting their hands on guns, he said the law had little or no impact, that any serious criminal in the country could get any kind of gun he wanted within 24 hours, he even mentioned the prices paid for weapons. Britain's gun laws might prevent shootings by outraged husbands or drunks or whoever simply by making firearms hard to come by for the average person. But anyone who thinks criminal gangs will have trouble getting guns should note that drug trafficers are able to bring narcotics into the country by the ton. Since the War on Drugs has been a trillion-dollar failure, one has to suspect that banning handguns would be just as effective as banning recreational drugs has been.
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The incidence of home invasions sky rocketed too... victim disarmament at it's finest. It's also a social experiment that no researcher would be allowed to conduct on ethical grounds.
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As anyone with any common sense would realise. However, by and large, they are used to threaten rather than to kill (other than each other - Hooray) and any shootings still make the front page of the nationals.
Street deaths and domestics are still down to the use of knives and other weapons.
Your average burglar entering your home is extremely unlikely to be carrying a gun and you still have the right to use reasonable force to defend yourself and your property.
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Stuart wrote:

Not in the UK, you don't.
"Anthony Edward Martin (born 1944) is a farmer from Norfolk, England, who in 1999 killed one burglar, and wounded another, who had invaded his home. He was subsequently convicted of murder. As a result, he became a cause clbre for some, and polarised opinions in the UK"
Nor in some states (Iowa, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Virginia, D.C.)
In other states, you may use reasonable force only if it impossible to retreat.
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It all depends on your definition of reasonable force.
IIRC one was shot in the back!
Without seeing all the evidence and reading the in depth court proceedings it is difficult to pass judgement but there were reports at the time that he had made public statements designed to lure them to his home so that he could do away with them.
There have been other cases since where householders have used more appropriate levels of force and after questioning have been released without charge. Those cases, of course, don't make such headlines.
It is, I admit, a very grey area but, by and large, courts are tending to favour the householder unless there is clear evidence that he has overstepped the mark.
Punching a burglar to the ground, on the basis that you fear for your safety is one thing but, however much you might feel it is your right to do so, kicking his head in while he is lying there isn't.
Anyway, back to woodworking.
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HeyBub wrote:

Bad example, back-shooting burglars who are attempting to flee doesn't qualify as self-defense.
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He turned as I fired. I panicked.
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You can be sure the bastards won't be around to threaten again.
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