Ed Bennet's Page can be corrected by removing the code: bgproperties="fixed"
FROM THE LINE:
Next time, before ranting, try copying the code to a text editor, saving it to your HD and looking at it. If you discover the suspect code, delete it, save the edited file and load it. Then you can ctually turn your bitching into what is called constructive something or another.
NORM
Thanks for the suggestion, but that made no difference on my viewing it in FF 1.5.x or 2.0.x in WinXP.
Easy for you to say. For those of us who know squat about html, the best we can do is let Ed know about the problem and offer testing assistance.
Any other ideas?
BTW, I saved the file as you suggested, and opened it in OpenOffice2.2. In table properties, I marked the checkbox for "relative" under width, left it at 100%, and saved it. The resulting file opens and displays correctly under Firefox. But at that point, openoffice has generated its own html file, and I don't have the knowledge to spot the differences. If anyone would like, I'd be glad to email that file, so that maybe an easy fix can be identified for Ed.
Thanks "NORM" for the info. I updated the page, give it a try and let me know if it works. If it does, then I'll have to update all the pages on my web site (vast numbers!). I guess Firefox (and perhaps others) can't handle the fixed background ("watermark" option in Front Page). Sad, because I like the look of floating text over black limba dovetails. Oh well!
BTW, I've seen a number of reviews on this Wixey Digital Angle Gauge (online and in magazines). They all use test cuts as their "standard of measure". Unfortunately one person's "dead-on" test cut could be off by miles to another. I figured that a more rigorous (scientific, educated, reasonable) approach might be appreciated. I think people want to know if the device is accurate. So, I tested it against known and certified accurate standards. So, you don't have to wonder if my idea of a test cut will satisfy your needs for an accurate device.
Questi> Ed Bennet's Page can be corrected by removing the code:
Still doesn't work right, Ed. But I think we are getting much closer (see below).
Won't be necessary. Everything else works right (well, okay, I didn't check all of them, but spot checking 5 or 6 other pages, they work). So it's just a matter of finding out what is different about this page. Specific pages I know work right in FF: Comparisons to MasteGage Pro, Redline X, Superbar, and product description page for TS-Aligner Jr lite.
No, that works fine on the other pages.
Hmmm......
I used the SuperBar page as a base for this page. Didn't muck around with the formatting (tables, background, etc.). Maybe I did something inadvertently. I'll try to figure out what the difference is.
Ed
OK, see if this fixes it!
I re-did the whole thing again based on the SuperBar page. I'm sure this time that I didn't muck with anything. Just a bunch of copy/ paste operations. If SuperBar works OK, then this page should work OK. Let me know.
Thanks, Ed
There are other ways to check these things out.
Paste in your URL on this page
And to show that I'm being fair, I tried it on one of my pages that I hadn't checked before, and it found more than 1000 errors. Gulp! Well, I've been meaning to fix that page anyhow. :-)
Curiouser and Curiouser! Superbar page still behaves right and wixey page doesn't. Same thing happens for me if I open them in openoffice writer. Blanchard said that an earlier fix worked for him in an earlier verison of FF, on linux. Anyone else using a non-IE browser still following this discussion? If so, what results are you getting?
Comparing source on the two pages, I see that the wixey page has the following line at the top.
************************** That line does not appear on the other. Is that indicative of some setting in Front page that might have changed between the time you created the superbar version and when you created this wixey version?
Ed is selling stuff ... you aren't.
Contrary to casual appearances, Ed is not running these tests as a public service ... he's making a case for why you should buy his device in preference to the Wixley device. And ... except in one extremely limited circumstance ... he's right.
But making the reader work for the information is likely to kill his sales pitch ... and his sales.
Your viewers apparently need your site more than you need them. If the situation were reversed, your web site design would change or you would go out of business.
I think Ed understands something about our comments that you do not. I think he understands that our comments are intended to help him make a buck. I, personally, would like for him to get feeelthy stinking rich so he could buy stuff from me. ;-) Lots of stuff!
Bill
For chuckles I ran the validator.w3.org test on this page, and it found 66 errors.
It's very humbling...
It's working correctly now!
Thanks, Swingman. I did that yesterday (tools/options/priacy/cache/clear cache now) in FF, but was still getting the "broken page". Also got it when I loaded it directly into OpenOffice Writer. But this morning, all is copacetic. I don't know the mechanics of the web well enough--could this have been being cached somewhere else, such as at my ISP, which prevented the change from being propagated, e.g, until the date changed?
Try refreshing the page or deleting your browser cache.
Not your fault Alexy. I worked on the page into the wee hours. I used the validator that Bruce suggested to make a whole bunch of changes (the "doctype" being one). In the end, I just couldn't get the slideshow style gallery to work properly. It is the culprit. It messes with the page formatting and screws up table definitions somehow. I'm currently looking for another slideshow package that works better. In the meantime, I put up a matrix of thumbnail photos. Ugly but functional. And, you'll notice that the background is no longer fixed. Oh well!
Thanks, Ed
That's what I was guessing. One more thing you might want to try. Yesterday, I loaded (read only) the wixey page into an old copy of FrontPage 4.0 I had on another computer. I then went into tools/page_options/compatability, and set browser to IE and Navigator and browser version to 4.0 and up. I don't remember if I turned off FrontPage extensions, but I think I did. I then saved to my hard drive, and viewed it fine in firefox. BUT I DID NOT SCROLL DOWN TO THE SLIDESHOW GALLERY, so I am not sure whether this fix broke that.
Great for me as well!
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