I want to get a small plane from LV; either the apron plane or standard
block plane, or maybe the LA block plane.
I've got a shoulder plane and LA smoother. Without buying one of
EVERYTHING, which one in the first paragraph would you not want to be
without. Someday, I'll get more, and more, but for NOW, which one do
YOU think is indispensable. In a perfect world, I'd already own each
one of LV's planes. :)
You might want to look at this article
I have a Stanley jack and a Veritas low angle block plane. Seems like a
standard combo. Now I want a shoulder plane!
What I've learned about sharpening plane blades
Peter, a special thanks to you for the link! I spent a good deal of
time reading the descriptions of each plane and their functions. I even
read up a bit on wooden planes.
At this point I'm leaning towards the block or LA block instead of the
I can't give you a comparison between the LV planes because I only have
the apron plane with the A2 steel but I can tell you that I have been
very happy with it. I think I may go the the standard block plane next,
or possibly a smoother. Have fun.
Well, some of us DO go overboard at times. I have, or did have, one of
The apron plane is a sweet, small trimmer, always at hand when just a
little dab needs to be taken off. It's a low angle plane, better on end
grain than edge grain.
The LV standard angle block is a good bit larger, every bit as good a
plane, and more adjustable. I bought it for my dad, to 'replace' the
funky Stanley Handyman block plane I'd liberated from his toolbox 15
years earlier. He 'keeps it in my shop', he says, because that's the
only time he does anything remotely fine woodworking. I keep it sharp,
and rust free.
The LV LA block plane lasted 2 weeks, before I gave it to the father of
one of my son's wife. He admired its beauty and versatility, so I gave
it to him. He was overjoyed, uses it frequently, and brought me a minty
pre-WW2 Stanley #7 that was excess to his needs. (We get along well.
He's a good wood scrounge, and has been know to drop by with really
turning stock, just because he can't stand to see it burned as
The plane that gets used most often in this range, in my shop, is the LN
9 1/2, standard angle adjustable mouth block.
It fits my hand, does everything asked of it, and feels good doing it.
It's narrower than the LV, somewhat lighter feeling, although the mass
is concentrated, and really, really well made. I keep a second blade
sharpened at a higher angle for nasty woods. $135 from any number of
Those are all nice tools, and you don't need all of them. Neither do I,
or the three other Stanley block planes that are kicking around, or are
part of the 'traveling kit'. Were I to add another small plane, it
would almost certainly be one of Steve Knight's new small finishing
planes, with the brass screw cap. But that's a want, not a need, for
me. The coffin smoother (50* padauk) he built for me last year is one
So many options. Such a joy to use.
My voice to the chorus for the low-angle. Only advantage to the standard
angle is that it can be used to remove wood faster, when necessary.
As to apron versus standard? Standard carries in one of those gore-tex belt
pouches, too. Used to do it.
If you just want tiny to touch up a corner or chamfer a tenon end, get the
Kuntz or other brand palm plane. It's so small you can wear it as jewelry.
As with others here, the LA block. It's very versatile. You might think
about getting the chamfer attachment for it as well -- I like that a lot,
it works really well. Will teach you to read grain. DAMHIKT.
Oh sure ... but what do you know about them anyway? (Hi, Rob ... so
when's the honing guide hitting the streets? :-)
It's funny that you would pick the apron plane. That's the one
plane of yours that has seen very little use in my shop.
But I must admit, when I needed to level the laminations after
glueup for a trout net I was making, it was exactly the right tool. I
was able to "stop on a dime" and work the curve without getting any
tearout as the grain direction changed. I expect it might be nice for
bamboo rodmaking or guitarmaking as well.
Chuck Vance (but give me the LV LA for my everyday block plane)
I'm also having trouble comprehending this. Sure, he may have one of each
of the Veritas planes, but he still uses the apron plane the most. Must be
Maybe if you answered a couple of questions I could follow you better. If I
had an apron plane as well as a smoother, a jack plane, shoulder plane and
rabbet plane, what one should I use to break a sharp edge?
If I had one each of every tool in the Lee Valley catalog, what would be a
good tool to use for that same operation?
Seems to me, no matter how big the tool selection, for many uses the apron
plane could be a good choice.
Obviously the apron plane. However the question here is whether a
limited budget is best spent on an apron plane, or the LA block. The
budget won't stretch to two.
There's very little the apron blane will do better than the LA block
(surviving in a toolbag is about the best). There's a lot the adjustable
mouth on the LA allows you to do that the apron can't. So if you're
limited to one, I'd get the LA even if I had to spend a little more on
Where I'm buying a lot (school outfitting) and there's the option to
have _one_ LA in the "special tools" cupboard, then the apron looks more
appropriate. If I had spare money I might even buy one myself to live
in the toolbag and leave the LA on my bench.
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