IQ, "g," and being smarter than a bear?



Here's my rant and rave on "IQ" - it does have a real purpose - and I don't feel that it's at all self-serving but honest:
I refuse to take any more "IQ" tests. I was told in high school (although it was supposed to be kept from me) that my score from the 4th grade testing was 133. Later, in high school and before leaving the nest my parents built, I took another and it was 147. When I finally did leave the nest, my father's domination, and the state of North Carolina and went west to university, I took another one as part of a study by the psychology department and it was 152. Then, in grad school at a different university, I was given another one (the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale) as part of another study. I was not told my score but only that it was "'something' more than four standard deviations above the mean." Most sources establish a standard deviation of 15 points for IQ scores so this put my scdore (not me, only my score) at something above 160. Mensa, Intertel, and Triple 9 took me on the documentation I sent from the psych department.
But I am also a professional flop. I couldn't keep up with S. J. Gould or Richard Dawkins (both had lower scores than me - I know that for a fact) and I had so much personal crap going on that I flopped and came close to blowing my orals (note the clever pun) over a simple question on Rassenkreissen and evolution. I did not publish anything after my one and only paper a long time ago but went into medical laboratory work because I needed the money and academia was not fit for me, or vice versa. Who knows? Who cares?
The concept of IQ is a mismeasure, sorry for stealing the word, Stephen Jay, and loaded with misconceptions held by psychologists, neuroscientists, and especially the public. Nobody knows what "g" is anyway and IQ is what IQ tests measure. It's meaningless for living.
And, IQ is not correlated with income (at least above about 110)- so the old question of "If you're so smart, why ain't you rich?" is inane. That makes me feel a little better. But all in all, having a lot of "g" does not make life and living with people easier. It makes it harder - especially when it is combined with ADD or ADHD.
So, if you guys out there have kids that are classified as "gifted" or "talented" on the basis of an IQ test, you can help them by teaching them that their scores do not guarantee "success." You can help all kids by teaching them the attributes and skills by which they may succeed.
Finis de fulmination. Ende des Schimpfe. Konetz rechii.
Agki
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Take Bill Gates for example.
One does not need a college degree to succeed and a college degree does not guarantee that you will succeed or even "maintain" for that matter.
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Leon wrote:
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are intelligent. I never got a PhD and therefore occasionally would put a professor on staff for a bit so he could sprinkle "academic holy water" on the substance of some methodology or other. Depending upon who you talk to, I was either blessed or cursed with a rather short attention span. No, not ADD nor any of its current derivatives but I could work on a problem until it was defined and either solved or a method for its solution derived. Then it was off to something else.
I retired at 59 (everybody's choice). I was by then very tired of working solutions for which there was no problem, simply because it was politically expedient. Gave up booze, moved to the mountains, and turn out the occasional bit of furniture, kid's toy, and church kitchen remodel. Cookies, diet soda, books, and satellite TV. Doesn't get much better. Oh, and my kids like me too. :-)     mahalo,     jo4hn
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What do you think I meant by the word "success"?
Agkistrodon
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Agki Strodon wrote:

I'm a bit puzzled--I thought he was agreeing with you and giving an example of someone who succeeded beyond most people's wildest dreams without a college degree.

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I know that. I was just carrying forth the discussion.
Agki
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Like J. Clarke indicated, I was agreeing with you.

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I know. I was just carrying forth further. Sorry.
Agki
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Greetings,
I never did well in an academic environment and couldn't wait to get out of high school. But, I was born with the ability to look at a piece of machinery and get it to do what I wanted. That ability allowed me to do very well in an industrial setting. I taught more than a few engineers more than what they learned in college. They always seemed to come to me when they had a problem. I always suspected that my IQ was higher than normal but never knew the results of any tests that might have been taken. Never had the urge to join Mensa or any other orgs for the intelligent. I retired 5 years ago at the age of 55 and now spend my time at the pool drinking margaritas with my wife, reading and making shavings and saw dust in the shop. Oh, and mowing 5 acres too. Life is good, not extravagant but good ! !
regards, Charlie in Kentucky

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