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Thank you, John. I was beginning to think that the point was going to sneak by the "blind" side.
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Intelligence is the ability to assimilate, associate, and retain information. It is enhanced by education. That there was an option to the switch is a piece of information, which is no substitute for education.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

Specialization. Fellow named Wolfgang Pauli was one of the great theoretical physicists, won the Nobel Prize in 1945. People who knew him tell me that while he is known to history for the Pauli Exclusion Principle and his work on Relativity, among his friends and acquaintances, he was known by the "Pauli Effect", by which he could be located in a building. One just followed the trail of blown fuses, burnt out light bulbs, smoking equipment, and so on and eventually you found him at the end of it.

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I've knows a number of very bright people who recite to themselved "righty tighty, lefty loosy" every time they approach a screw or bolt. The reason is that they didn't grow up playing with mechanical things, they seldom encounter them now and it hasn't become "second nature". I know a number of people who don't have the problem whose IQ is probably not over 85.
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"Didn't grow up playing with mechanical things." That's it in a nutshell.
I know a lawyer, very bright guy, who decided to redo his kitchen himself. He actually did a decent job of laying linoleum and installing cabinets from the Borg, but when he did the plumbing.... well, he somehow managed to miss the concept that fittings on PVC pipe needed to be glued, and thought that a press fit was adequate. The results were entirely predictable (except to him).
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Undoubtedly he would look with disdain on a plumber who tried to practice law.
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You're right. But... we got too much of that disdain stuff. If you want to be your own lawyer, more power to you. If you get bad results, those are the breaks. (I'm not a lawyer, by the way). A lot of us get a great deal of enjoyment out of mechanical work around the house, maintaining the car, doing our own plumbing and wiring. I overhauled my first one cylinder engine when I was about twelve. I overhauled a Model "T" engine in high school shop and used it to run a hammer mill to grind alfalfa. I don't do plumbing and wiring to beat the professional out of a buck. I do it for recreation. I don't golf. I don't watch football on TV. There have to be a lot of folks enjoying the mechanical trades judging by the number of mags and TV shows aimed at helping them along.
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's alright, I've seen some *plumbers* who couldn't seem to get the joints right either!
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I've knows a number of very bright people who recite to themselved "righty tighty, lefty loosy" every time they approach a screw or bolt. The reason is that they didn't grow up playing with mechanical things, they seldom encounter them now and it hasn't become "second nature". I know a number of people who don't have the problem whose IQ is probably not over 85.
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would lack the ability to really notice that she had it in reverse UNLESS he knew his wife was flakey ... as a "general" rule I find most surgeons have a pretty good bit of mechanical knowledge...
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Bob G. wrote:

Not to mention that they work with power tools regularly--at one time it was ordinary carpenter's tools but since the '60s a variety of tools specifically designed for surgical use have been developed. On the other hand I suspect the controls on the tools he's used to are probably arranged a bit differently from those on a commonplace electric drill.
Regardless, the expression "RTFM" comes to mind.

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I had to have a piece of my uvula removed by an ENT specialist (it cleared up my snoring problem, and my wife sleeps again in the same room). He used a suction device to clear away the blood before I would choke. However, the suction thing clogged up, and I had to ask whether he had the filter in correctly ... After he switched it around, it worked fine.
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Why would you doubt it? The only way this would not be a true story would be if she lied to me or I lied to the group. She told this story against herself and that to me gives it an air of verisimilitude. And I can't think of a reason that I would lie to the group about something like this - what would I gain? She isn't flakey, she just didn't know that modern power drills have both a forward and reverse action. Mechanical aptitude isn't inate, we learn it. While working as a carpenter's labourer many years ago I was helping to build a deck for a guy that programs computers. In those days that was akin to being a rocket scientist. Under the house my boss noticed a new looking vacuum cleaner he asked the owner about it and was told that he threw it down there when it stopped sucking. My boss took it home and changed the bag.
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I don't know, we have a couple of brain surgeons in the maintenance department at work. One of them did the same thing. He at least sharpened the bit because it was not going in fast enough. Ed
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Just goes to show that brain surgeons aren't rocket scientists...
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Yep, I've got one of them in the shipping department. Oh, the stories I could tell you. Like the time they were loading a TL of product in bags, 2' x 2' x 4'. Rocket scientist says "these (one is laying at his feet) must be at least 8' long." Co-worker says "they can't be, you are about 6" tall and they are not as high as you". Rocket Scientist replies "I'm not talking how tall they are, but how WIDE they are."
At least one event a day like that. Ed
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Maybe she's actually very clever and was just pulling your leg; and you fel l for it.
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So my mistake was taking him at his word?
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In a Fluids lab the instructor asked a student to turn off the water valve and as he tryied turning it counterclockwise several tiems his lips moved as he told himself "Clockwise" and he was a mechanical engineering major. Some learn earlier than others.
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