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What concepts would you be on about, oh know-it-all one?

You are a man of limited intelligence.
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IMM wrote:

We are all men of limited intelligence, some however, are more limited than others.
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You are....so true.
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IMM wrote:

I try to be..true...to myself.

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Are the voices still there?
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{:-))
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Even in the seventies, Martin.

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martin wrote:

Yes, but today you only get to learn them at snotty unis.
Its called 'Progress and equality in educayshun'
The basic idea is to wreck teh snotty unis and teh grammare schools to appeas teh Laber Votahs who think that not being stupid is some kind of clarss privilege.
Whilst most of the Laber MP's send their kids to private schools (on tax payers money)a nd went to them themselves, or at least snotty grammar schools, before going free to univesrity (on taxpayers money).
Its normal 'animal farm' stuff. Everybody is equally miserable, stupid and badly educated, except for the Party Elite, who simply become teh new aristocracy, just like in the Soviet Union.
One wouldn't mind, except they are so BAD at it.

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You are in cloud cuckoo land!

That sounds appealing.
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wrote:

I can just hear Janet Street Porter saying that,........

.. and amazingly seem to believe that they have everybody fooled into believing it.

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Andy Hall wrote:

Look at IMM. They have.
Remember he is more represntative than those of us who (gasp) can use computers, and do D-I-Y.

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CHP has its place in the right environment. But there are lots of nimbys.

Though at the moment the emphasis seems to be entirely on installing windmills and not on commissioning or operating them. The ones visible along the A19 seem to be permanently feathered and non rotating. And even if they were operating the wind doesn't blow continuously so you still need backup conventional power stations for the cold windless days.
But at least wind generation has more prospect of being useful than solar power at our latitude and with the UK's cloudy maritime climate.

Lashings of hot water on the few sunny days in mid summer, and horrid technical problems in mid winter trying to keep the system from freezing.

It is pretty hard to find applications where even the latest PV cells are truly cost effective. You have to be a long way from any mains power before their cost per watt justifies using them.
Solar power works reasonably at latitudes below about 45 degrees, but it is quite frankly a complete non-starter at latitudes 55N and above. Unless you count biomass conversion in forests for indirect fuel generation.
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??? What have Nimbies to do with it? see: http://www.microgendirect.com /
This is a boiler that generates electricity from waste heat.

Not so. Solar in the UK is very feasible. In fact because they have a long heating season, solar in Scotland has great advantages.
The idea is to reduce energy consumption at source and then power generation is not so important.

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What are you on about?

month.
Superinsulation, passive solar house design, DHW solar panels on the roof, CHP boilers (nearly here), all reduce power consumption greatly. You can forget PV cells. Even so, if the take up of PV cell was all over then the manufacturing costs would tumble, making them highly cost effective.

Nonsense!!! Absolute Nonsense!!! St, George's School in Wallasey was built in 1961 and was full solar and worked wonderfully. With modern materials and controls, a school built to solar would be even better and far more comfortable.
Have the whole south facing roof of a house an integrated solar panel and it generates masses of heat. In winter it will not be too hot, so it is best to use low temperature under floor heating in the house. The heated water can be in a very large thermal store to cope with 3 cloudy days. The DHW section may need topping up with backup heating in deep winter. All feasible.
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Martin Brown wrote:

Agreed. Horses for courses.
However tide power is not impossible either. Not an easy one tho.
If only we could get fusion power working...

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Fusion power is going to turn out to be a great deal filthier than fission power.
Fission power is the cleanest and least polluting energy source ever produced on earth.
The number of deaths per kilowatt hour which occur in the extraction and processing of fossil fuels is a lot higher than the corresponding number for the extraction of uranium
The pollution of the atmosphere by fossil fuel stations is vastly worse than the pollution caused by nuclear power stations.
The radioactive contamination by a nuclear station is negligible, despite the protestations of the anti-nuclear lobby. And even that contamination is largely caused by irresponsible practices.
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If every power staionin the world was nuclear we would be in big trouble getting rid of the waste.

The human element. When it breaks down, big, big problems. Best forgot nuclear as cleaner, lower tech alternatives are around right now.
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Martin,
Thank you for your solid contribution.
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As is the case with flying machines. There have been many more deaths due to aeroplane crashes than due to the 3 Mile Island accident. Chernobyl does not count. That was as close as one can get to wilful negligence.

But for how long will they last, and for how long can we tolerate their insidious effects on the atmosphere? I will venture a guess that many more people all over the world are this moment dying from side effects of these lower tech alternatives than from anything ascribable to nuclear power plants.
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Grow up!
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