RIP DIY - longish rant

I'm sure that's true. I'm sure it's also true of appliances, vehicles and (especially) humans. Who hereabouts has the perfect body - because s/he looks after it as we're all advised so that our lives are happier and prolonged?

Mary

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Mary Fisher
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We're not turning into an obsessed society, we are, and always have been, an obsessed society. The new legislations are taking into account the increase in the DIY trade across the country. These new legislations are being put in place to prevent the increase that this market will surely cause. The legislations are being pressured by the insurance companies, mainly because it is them that have to deal with the consequences of the outcome of the shoddy workmanship. It is the insurance companies that are assuring that they have a comeback to some other entity for an installation not being to certain quality standards.

That's why it is beginning with the services that could potentially be fatal if incorrectly configured, for the want of better description. The dangers of gas and electrical equipment are all to plain to see. Any leakage from any of them is potentially, if not consequentially, fatal to the safety of persons and environments around the leakage. All the equipment used on the installation is suitable for the job. The person that is installing the equipment doesn't know that the equipment must be at a certain temperature, or tightened to certain torque in the case of your vehicle, and a leakage is caused by this lack of knowledge. What's the outcome ?

I personally think it comes down to the point that two heads are better than one, and if you can have someone with a good knowledge of the trade to give it a check over after the works done, and they don't see or detect any problems with it after they carry out their tests. Then it is a good thing to have done.

The legislations are there to protect before the statistics increase, and not put in place after the stat's show they are needed.

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BigWallop

A general question to all - I've heard that the wiring colouring is to change but are the rules for electrical work changing to? I tried googling but this group has so much thread creep it was a waste of time.

Is electrical work going the same way as gas work? Will light switches for example, be disappearing from B&Q cos it will needs a qualified person to do the job?

Is there a simple clear link that explains the changes that are coming?

Tony

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Tony

(more extremes to follow) :-)) Yes you do. Well, rightly, your relatives and lawyers appoint would.

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BigWallop

If a tradesperson tried to palm me off with a bunch of flowers to cover the cost of damage they caused, I'd ram them up their ass.....uming they would offer me flowers in the first place.

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BigWallop

Or the changes that are already here, even. This should help explain:

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BigWallop

That will be a very great comfort :-)))

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Mary Fisher

Tony wrote: [snip]

Gas fittings haven't disappeared so why should light fitting?

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usenet

in

the cost of damage

flowers in the first

I might consider placing them on his grave.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

Any compensation would help to pay for the pretty box at least. :-))

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BigWallop

over after the

It is indeed a counsel of perfection.

If ifs and ands were pots and pans ...

Mary

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Mary Fisher

But there is nothing in place that says you can't carry out any DIY for yourself. That's why it is called Do It Yourself. The point of being able to carry out work for others, and profit from that work, is the coverage of the legislations. You can still quite happily blow yourself and your property to kingdom come with a faulty gas or electrical installation, just as long as you don't interfere with the property and well being of others around you. It's this point that gets you into trouble.

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BigWallop

And names that cannae hurt eis ?

Sorry ! That's the sticks and stones one, isn't it ?

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BigWallop

They sell boilers, gas PTFE tape and so forth, so there's no reason to suspect so, even if the law is changed.

Christian.

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Christian McArdle

or whether you will have to go through an expensive course first...

Stupid question, I suppose!

Bob

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Bob

That's

What are you rambling on about? It has absolutely nothing to do with the question of whether electrical accessories will disappear from B&Q as far as I can see and even less to do with my response.

.... and I *WISH* you'd limit your postings to less than 80 columns, they are a right mess when wrapped to fit (and, yes, there is an RFC which recommends 80 columns or less, it's not just my whim).

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usenet

I'm not having one. A plank (reclaimed boards) and a winding sheet will be enough.

We're interested in archaeology, especially graves and their contents. Recently I asked Spouse what he'd like to be buried in, he has a choice of clothing from Roman to VII Edwardian. He said that, since he spent so much time in it, his boiler suit would be the most suitable.

Mary

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Mary Fisher

That's a man efter mee ane hert. :-))

The better half was going to leave her body to medical science but I told her she's going in a black plastic bag in the back garden. She always likes the view from there anyway.

Ooh ! I'm being horrid.

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BigWallop

yourself. That's

for others,

electrical

I was unaware that my columns were so exposed to being wrapped to fit. I have, however, just checked my setting and they were indeed set incorrectly. I installed a piece of software that could have had an influence on these settings, but this has now been removed. I can only thank you for pointing this out to me.

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BigWallop

"BigWallop" wrote | ... The legislations are being pressured by the insurance | companies, mainly because it is them that have to deal with the | consequences of the outcome of the shoddy workmanship. ... | That's why it is beginning with the services that could potentially | be fatal if incorrectly configured, for the want of better description. | The dangers of gas and electrical equipment are all to plain to see.

But what are the comparative statistics for deaths and injuries from DIY gas and electrical installation, and from deaths and injuries from tripping over frayed carpets and falling down the stairs?

Should carpet-fitting be a restricted practice and all householders have to have an annual inspection of their carpets and a slipperiness test carried out on hard floors?

And why are shops still allowed to sell chip pans?

Owain

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Owain

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